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map Mr Calendar
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Posted: 09:44 - 27 Oct 2014 Post subject: Fitting LED - wiring connectors to very thin leads - DONE |
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Set about fitting some 3w LEDs as extra side lights this weekend.
Made up leads to tap into existing loom and fitted (in the best Heath Robinson style) the LEDs on adapted corner braces.
Now the wiring for these LEDs is cotton thread thin. I stripped and folded the wires and crimped onto connectors to attach to the loom.
However, as I did so they snapped at the connector.
I cannot see how to crimp and connect these very thin wires. Hence asking for advice.
Connectors were the smallest bullet type you get from Halfords.
BTW no solder used.
Luckily I didn't trim/shorten the LED wires so plenty to work with.
Help appreciated. What am I doing wrong? What can I do different?
Thanks in anticipation
Update: Job now done, see post below. ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
Gibbs, what did Duckie look like when he was younger?
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Nick the insulation of the wire you want to connect to, and pull it apart to expose the copper. Wrap the wire from the LED around it, and solder. Finish off with self-amalgamating tape, or insulation tape. ____________________ Honda Varadero XL125(V8)
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Heat-shrink won't melt the solder.
If you can't solder, try wrapping the wire from the LED around some thicker wire before crimping. Use araldite to fix the insulation into the end of the crimp connector, without getting it on the copper - then crimp when it has set, and cup off the surplus thicker wire.. ____________________ Honda Varadero XL125(V8)
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Posted: 12:41 - 27 Oct 2014 Post subject: |
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Tension relief is the answer.
Crimp in the usual way with two crimp points, making sure you have trapped the insulation in the upper one. With non-insulated crimps, I would also solder (this is actually what I do).
This will make a good electrical connection and is fine for stationary wiring (say mounted on a PCB) but, as you're finding, the copper is very thin. The soldering makes sure it sticks to the connector BUT a joint which has movement in it will very quickly snap the copper just above the soldered portion.
So you need tension relief. Having made the joint, loop the cable down towards the terminal then back up again. Shrink tube this loop to the outside of the terminal. Now the join itself is stationary and any tension or movement is transmitted between the insulation of the flying wire and the outside of the terminal. You have to pull a good few mm of cable out of the shrink tube before put any tension on the joint itself. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 12:13 - 13 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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Quick update just to round off the thread...
Job done.
Resorted to the strip, twist and solder method.
Heat shrink tube over the +ve wires.
Misjudged the diameter of heat shrink and thickness of the -ve earth I'd used. So that got wrapped in insulating tape just to finish the job. Heath Robinson would have approved.
The result is two lights that are more flood than pinpoint beam. Lit up the front of the garage and house nicely.
Result (with sidelights on)...
https://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k503/mapidd/Biking/CB500/2014-11-13-1424_zps1a26aac9.jpg
At night it emphasises how yellow the side lights and dipped/main are.
I'm a happy bunny ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 165 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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