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Posted: 11:24 - 19 Apr 2015 Post subject: How important is priming an oil filter? |
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I've always been told you should prime an oil filter when fitting and a thin smeer of oil on the seal and hand tighten.
On the ZZR the filter sits horizontally behind the exhaust and oil cooler making it hard to get the filter on without getting oil all over the exhausts and my hands making it hard to ensure its tight.
This often results in a small leak or spray onto the exhaust 500 miles or so later
Any ideas?
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Posted: 12:06 - 19 Apr 2015 Post subject: |
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I don't "prime" them, I smear a bit of oil on the seal and nip up with a filter wrench.
Start the bike, watch and make sure the oil light goes out, leave running for 5 mins, turn off, check level and top up after a couple of mins.
Never had a problem. ____________________ Previously owned: Kawasaki KH125, Suzuki GP125, Suzuki GX 125, Honda CB125 TDC '83, Honda ntv 600, Kawasaki ER5, Kawasaki ZZR600, Aprilia RSV 1000 Mille
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Priming filters really only applies to big car engines, V8s and the like with filters the size of a small saucepan, especially those with remote filtering systems.
For bikes just smear some oil around the seal and hand tighten as hard as you can. Using a wrench is risky unless you're very careful.
Next fill up with oil.
Run the engine, check the oil light goes out, let it warm up, check for leaks. ____________________ They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa, hey-hey,
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Not usually. One some bikes it's almost essential though. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Posted: 14:24 - 20 Apr 2015 Post subject: |
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Iain. wrote: | Nemo wrote: | I don't "prime" them, I smear a bit of oil on the seal and nip up with a filter wrench. |
This concerns me, massively considering you're working with KTM's & certain models have a specific priming proceedure that includes injecting a set amount of oil into the headstock bleeder to fill the filter up prior to engine start.
Only after priming it can you then run the engine up, bleeding the air out of the same port before nipping it up, before confirming the correct oil level on the appropriate sight glass.
https://www.advrider.com/Wisdom/GuidetochangingtheoilonanLC4.pdf
Personally on a ZZR I wouldn't bother. Would smear oil on the O-ring, then fill it up & watch the oil light. If the light doesn't go off within a second of the engine catching I'd kill it & check for issues as it doesn't take much to cabbage an engine with oil starvation. |
That's something completely different, as far as conventional wet sump bikes go, I don't prime them. Obviously if there is a sequence you follow it.
But he's not talking about ktm's, he's talking about his zzr.
Not only that, but not all ktm's are the same, some of them you don't prime. ____________________ Previously owned: Kawasaki KH125, Suzuki GP125, Suzuki GX 125, Honda CB125 TDC '83, Honda ntv 600, Kawasaki ER5, Kawasaki ZZR600, Aprilia RSV 1000 Mille
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Nemo wrote: | But he's not talking about ktm's, he's talking about his zzr. |
Iain. wrote: | Personally on a ZZR I wouldn't bother |
Nemo wrote: | Not only that, but not all ktm's are the same, some of them you don't prime. |
Iain. wrote: | certain models have a specific priming proceedure |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 53 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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