Track bike with no v5 - cat B

Gazza M · Crazy Courier Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Karma :

Having a look at a few track prepped bikes that are on ebay and one there is advertised as no v5 as it was a cat b write off a few years back. The guy says he bought it off ebay 2 years ago and hasn't had any issues. Frame number has apparently been machined off.

Does this sound too dodgy? I've read a couple of things about police coming to track days and seizing bikes because of lack of evidence of ownership etc.

I'm torn between this one (2004 R6) or a 1997 thundercat both fairly local to me for around the same price. Both have track fairings, r6 doesn't have much else extra apart from tyres, thundercat has a few extra bits like spare rear wheel + tyres
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mattsprattuk · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Karma :

You're torn between a 2004 R6... and a 1997 thundercat... as a track bike.... for the same price??

Get your head checked.
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P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Turn up to a track day with no frame numbers, should be lols.

But no, R6 would be the best option, however you'll want one thats legit.

Gazza M · Crazy Courier Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Karma :

chris-red · Have you considered a TDM? Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Karma :

I wouldn't touch that R6.
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Gazza M · Crazy Courier Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Karma :

link to ad: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131497158043?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Got in touch with the bloke and he says the frame # has been 'crossed out with perfect crosses' rather than machined off.
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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

I wouldn't touch either with a barge pole.
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Scythe · Crazy Courier Joined: 24 Jul 2010 Karma :

A bike with no frame number is fine, race bikes are supplied without numbers sometimes. Provided you are supplied with a proof of purchase and you can identify the previous owner's proof of purchase (and take a copy for your records) then you're fine. It is not unheard of for track bikes.

However, if a frame number previously existed on the frame and was scored out or edited in anyway, avoid like the plague.
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Slacker24seve... · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 May 2010 Karma :

A Chundercat is heavier and softer than a proper sports bike. You will quickly want something sharper, with better brakes and less weight transfer.

Basically, get a proper 600 sports.
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Gazza M · Crazy Courier Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Karma :

Just seen pics sent over, frame number has been scratched/punched out. So avoiding as you all say.

Checking out a '98 CBR600F later - last of the steelie ones I think. Much more kosher, been converted from a road bike 5 yrs ago by the seller and looked after nicely it seems. Anything specific to watch out for other than the obvious?
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.Bishbash. · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Karma :

Depends what you want it for really, racing it would be useless, as they check the frame and engine numbers every race meet.

Trackdays, I have never had a check done on my bike...EVER, only noise testing.

I would still give that R6 a miss as the frame number and no log book sounds too dodgy, one or the other could be feasible, but not both.

Run a mile from that pal!!!!
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J0Al1 · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Karma :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131497158043?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Just up the road from me if you want someone to pop and look.

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

If you can still see the figures behind the crosses on the frame number, I'd be happy with that.

Too late now, it seems.

A stock R6 does pretty well on track; not so much for a stock thundercat.