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mudcow007
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 28 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Vincent, only just seen the ebay listing an missed it Sad

tried to pop the barrel off last night using a similar setup to yours an all I achieved was a hole in the piston Laughing


My setup is basically the same as yours except i used a bar of brass (1/4" thick) tapped with 8mm bolt which screws through the bar to the piston with the idea of just popping the barrel off

After i "holed" the piston, the only thing i had to put under the bolt on top of the piston was a 50p coin - which ended up with a 8mm hole through the middle of it (dont tell the queen)

any ideas anyone!!?
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 28 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
Cheers Vincent, only just seen the ebay listing an missed it Sad

tried to pop the barrel off last night using a similar setup to yours an all I achieved was a hole in the piston Laughing


My setup is basically the same as yours except i used a bar of brass (1/4" thick) tapped with 8mm bolt which screws through the bar to the piston with the idea of just popping the barrel off

After i "holed" the piston, the only thing i had to put under the bolt on top of the piston was a 50p coin - which ended up with a 8mm hole through the middle of it (dont tell the queen)

any ideas anyone!!?


Yeah. Throw all your spanners in the bin.
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 28 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Yeah. Throw all your spanners in the bin.


And put the bike on ebay with the words "Barn Find" in the title. Move on with your life and admit that restorations are not your thing Thumbs Up Wink
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 28 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mudcow007 wrote:
Cheers Vincent, only just seen the ebay listing an missed it Sad

tried to pop the barrel off last night using a similar setup to yours an all I achieved was a hole in the piston Laughing


My setup is basically the same as yours except i used a bar of brass (1/4" thick) tapped with 8mm bolt which screws through the bar to the piston with the idea of just popping the barrel off

After i "holed" the piston, the only thing i had to put under the bolt on top of the piston was a 50p coin - which ended up with a 8mm hole through the middle of it (dont tell the queen)

any ideas anyone!!?


Yeah. Throw all your spanners in the bin.


cheers for that Rolling Eyes

well, i had already tried the atf & heat method that did bugger all

cant tap the side of the barrel as worried about damaging the fins

Im still struggling with removing the flywheel (tried a puller & extractor) so cant split the cases - so cant get at the barrel from the bottom so its the top only
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 28 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cheers for that Rolling Eyes

well, i had already tried the atf & heat method that did bugger all

cant tap the side of the barrel as worried about damaging the fins

Im still struggling with removing the flywheel (tried a puller & extractor) so cant split the cases - so cant get at the barrel from the bottom so its the top only


Well what do you expect? Jacking off the piston crown is something that should be obvious to anyone with half an inkling is never going to end well. Not only is the piston made form a thin and lightweight material so should obviously be a weak component, but you're also jacking through the small end bearing, conrod and big end bearing below it in a way that they weren't designed for.

Sorry if it's not what you want to hear but there it is. At least there's the consolation that the engine's virtually a scrapper anyway, you haven't ruined a good part.
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 28 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've seen similar and even worse restored


They tend to be Gold Stars or Brough Superiors though. This seems a lot of time, effort and possible expense for a relatively common, low value bike.
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 28 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for the replies, the only thing im really interested in is the barrel (an possibly RH case - see earlier in this thread) so the rest of it is scrap - its in a state...

If i'm honest im shocked how thin a piston is, I always thought they were a bit thicker...but hey ho

I've got another complete engine minus the barrel...so just trying to do the old switcheroo.

I understand this bike is a mess, but at the moment its cost me next to nothing so its still really just a (steep) learning experience/ experiment
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 28 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i think there is 6 or 7 of em Shocked

piston that i holed, is a 0.75 so looks like its had a rebore at some point, but what 2 stroke hasn't?

another thing is i don't know if its stuck in gear as well as i couldn't move the selector at all - if that would make a difference....suppose it would if your trying to move the crank

I do enjoy a bit fo challenge but this is getting a bit heavy!!
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 28 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piston and conrod will likely be scrap anyhow so I wouldn't worry about that as they ain't expensive to replace.... I've had to cut through conrods once freeing or destroying a piston enough to allow enough movement. Is it stuck at the top of the stroke?
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

barrel removed an quickly snot blasted

https://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/mudcow007/Mobile%20Uploads/20160516_153956_001_zpsnxaoxnt3.jpg

someones "handy work" Shocked

https://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/mudcow007/Mobile%20Uploads/20160516_160738_zpsg97z98w2.jpg
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 27 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

No pictures to add, but just bought a replacement swingarm and engine bashguard

not bad for £20 for the two of em

big bits im still to find:

tank
oil tank
metal work for mud guards
possibly replacement forks stanchions - mine are rusty but high up not by the sliders

millions of bits n bobs

I can see the tank being a bit of a struggle...
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 27 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1975-Yamaha-Enduro-DT-175-oil-tank-And-Battery-Box-/282051988979?hash=item41ab9bcdf3:g:8cUAAOSwn8FXSjIo

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1978-78-YAMAHA-DT175-DT-175-Gas-Tank-Fuel-/361611120999?hash=item5431b3d167:g:x3cAAOSwGIRXatxg

looks like USA is a good place to start - might get a good deal on a bundle of stuff?
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 27 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
No pictures to add, but just bought a replacement swingarm and engine bashguard

not bad for £20 for the two of em

big bits im still to find:

tank
oil tank
metal work for mud guards
possibly replacement forks stanchions - mine are rusty but high up not by the sliders

millions of bits n bobs

I can see the tank being a bit of a struggle...


What size are the forks?

I've got a spare set that came with my XL125 basket case, they look straight enough, the tubes are 31mm dia, if they'll fit your DT you can 'ave 'em. They'll need new seals etc. But AFAICT they're good to go and can't be much different from the DT forks.
I can't give you any more details just yet, I'm a couple of thousand miles away, at the moment.
Some intense Googling might reveal some info.
I can get 'em down to the BBQ if you're attending!

Ha, just seen your profile, we could meet up halfway, if that's easier!
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 27 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome cheers Sid!

Will try an measure mine tonight

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Cheers Fester, Mine is a 175MX which has an internal (plastic) oil tank. these don't seem to come up much.

I have found Germany has quite a few bits..

Just a bit worried that it will be the wrong part as there seems to be loads of different variants of the bike Sad
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 28 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swingarm has arrived an its slightly different to mine Thumbs Down

Weirdly it doesn't have the "sticky out bit" for the drum brake to grab on, or disk brake mounts....even more weirdly there are no signs of either of them being ground off
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 04 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just my 2 pence worth...

Tbh I dont think this is a bike rebuilt tbh. The amount of work needed to be done on this you might as well build a new bike from scratch.

Even the frame looks totally unsafe and rusted through
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 02 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

woohoo

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PostPosted: 18:04 - 02 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

NutsyUk wrote:
Just my 2 pence worth...

Tbh I dont think this is a bike rebuilt tbh. The amount of work needed to be done on this you might as well build a new bike from scratch.

Even the frame looks totally unsafe and rusted through
you have to admire the determination i think, if it were me id just push it back into the river where it looks like it was found Laughing

This thread does spark my interest everytime i see an update on it though, im looking forward to seeing this bike in functional order, one day (probably in the very distant future) Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 02 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers, to be honest im enjoying the hunt for parts at the moment, there seems to be plenty of them around an it is possible to pick up bargains

like that swingarm was £25 Very Happy it looks crusty when i got it, but shot blasted it in an work now it looks a tiny bit less scabby

Im in no rush to get it built, i still need loads of parts anyways - tank, oil bottle, air box etc.....
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