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Posted: 16:09 - 22 Apr 2016 Post subject: KLE500 resurrection |
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I haven't taken pictures from the start of this, didn't think to.
I've had this bike for years. I'd done a 17" wheel conversion and it has a GPZ500 engine in it.
Got a new bike and put the KLE in the garage then when I pulled it out a few months later to MOT and sell it, found the tank had sprung a pinhole leak and made the plastics go all melty. Shoved it back in the lockup, where it's stayed for the last 5 or 6 years.
I dragged it out of the corner a week or so ago and set about it. It was in a fairly advanced state of yakkiness. I've decided I'll try to get it back on the road in time for the rat and survival show at the end of May. I don't want to spend a fortune on it but I'm prepared to give it some of my time.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0446.jpg
First step was to see if it's still a runner, otherwise, what's the point?
So first problem was no throttle movement. Stripped it down as far as the carbs and found the close cable broken, the open one was moving so it was a seized throttle linkage. Pulled the carbs off, split them, cleaned and lubed the linkage then refitted them.
Used one of my spare fuel tanks off another bike to jury rigg a petrol suply and hooked it up to the van battery. I cranked it over wth no fuel for about 30 seconds to get the oil round it then fed it some gas. Fired up on one after a couple of seconds and the other followed. We have a project!
Shock and swingarm were very minging so I stripped the back end out.
I've wire-brushed the worst of the rust off the frame and primed it with iron oxide.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0441.jpg
As you can see, there is a lot of surface yad on it.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0442.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0445.jpg
New throttle cables. I'll keep the old "open" as a spare.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0443.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0447.jpg
I'm going to re-instate the original spoked wheels with a view to doing some arsing about on it. I've already got a road bike.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0444.jpg
It's not as bad as it looks. Most of the corrosion is very superficial. I also reassembled everything using copper grease so I've not had anything give me a problem with removal yet.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0448.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0449.jpg
Had a good find on ebay. £25 for a new side-panel to replace the one that's gone all Dahli from the spilled fuel. In really good nick. They've just taken the graphics off (can't really blame them, wait 'till you see the purple seat!)
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0450.jpg
Stripped all the paint off the swimgarm and primed it. I'm going to do it with stonechip coating then gunmetal paint to match in with the frame.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0451.jpg
The shock spring was pure rust but the shock itself is working fine. Took the worst off in an electrolysis bath. I've decided to rock some truck-bed paint on this. Should be both tough and flexible.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0452.jpg
Got a whole load of other stuff to do. Painting the swingarm, treating the tank and finishing off the callipers on the cards for tomorrow. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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nice the calipers cleaned up good.
looks like it needs to be placed hole in a blasting cabinet! ____________________ Shaun
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Tea break!
Got started on the tank. First off I made a little blanking plate from a bit of scrap alloy wrapped in gaffer tape to block off the fuel tap hole.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0519.jpg
Then in with the cleaner/degreaser. I split it in half and did it in two lots, because solution chemistry.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0518.jpg
While that was soaking, I set about reassembling the back end of the bike.
Lube the roller bearings and sleeves in the swingarm with moly grease (these were masked up for the painting).
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0520.jpg
Re-attach the chain guards. Ys they're mucky. Yes, I'm getting greasy fingerprints on my new paint. No, I don't care. Oily muck never made a bike rot away.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0521.jpg
Grease and re-insert the rear brake pivot BEFORE reattaching the swingarm.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0522.jpg
That new clevis joint looks good and fits like a glove.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0523.jpg
Two lots of mad-hot cleaner-degreaser thoroughly through the tank by this point so a good swill out, a pressure-wash inside then add the metal prep. This is an acid-etch so the tank needs to be sloshed about with it and turned every 20 minutes.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0524.jpg
Unitrak on the KLE has roller bearings, unlike the GPZ. I didn't realise this but I'm happy there are, the nylon bushes in the GPZ ones wear and are a classic MOT fail. More moly grease.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0526.jpg
Swingarm in. Shock threaded up through swingarm and top bolt in.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0527.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0528.jpg
Order of operations. The lowest bolt and the corresponding dog-bone on the bolt-head side needs to go on the unitrak BEFORE the unitrak is fitted into the frame due to lack of clearance. Then the frame attachment, then the shock (and tighten it down) then hook the dogbone to the swingarm and add the other one.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0529.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0530.jpg
New sprocket 2 teeth smaller because this is a GPZ motor which makes a bit more power than the original KLE one. This puts it halfway between the GPZ and KLE gearing.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0531.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0532.jpg
Rear wheel in. Looking more like a motorbike.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0533.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0534.jpg
I know my paint is silvery-grey rather than gunmetal but TBH it seems a reasonable cosmetic result considering what I started with.
I've flushed out the tank. SHaken as much water out of it as possible and given it a blast with a hairdrier (I have a garage hairdrier). It's currently sat in a small room at work with a heater on and dehimidifier going full-blast (solar panels so free electric). Should be positively dessicated by tomorrow when I'll do the actual tank sealant.
Few odds and sods to do now. Front brake, clutch cable and lever, speedo cable, sparkplugs etc. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Hi , good little cadre that for lining the tank, should save it somewhere , and I prefer to call it patina rather than muck, it gets me out of a lot of cleaning that way, great thread. |
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Ok. Play abandoned for today due to poor light (no lighting in the area I'm working in).
Fitted and bled the front brake calliper. If you order pads for a KLE500 from one of the big parts wholesalers, they'll send you a set of utterly dire EBC "red stuff" pads meant for offroaders. They are the exact same calliper as the 1st gen GPZ500 so order pads for one of those if you want brakes that both grip and will give you more than one good stop in quick succession.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0535.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0536.jpg
Typical master cylinder cap bolt rounded out, despite using the correct JIS screwdriver. Drilled and unscrewed. Takes minutes. I'll pick up some M4 bolts tomorrow sometime.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0537.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0539.jpg
New speedo cable (lost the old one).
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0541.jpg
It had a previously bent then straightened clutch lever. I'm happy with the metallurgy of straightening these so it won't break BUT it's at an odd angle so I'll keep it for a crash spare. The cable is also totally screwed, nearly totally seized.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0542.jpg
Sparkplugs.
Deeply recessed plugs on these bikes which need a special long reach, thin-wall plug spanner. You can't do them with a standard socket. I've got a couple but damned if I can find them.
The recesses are a collecting area for little bits of gravel and road dirt.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0543.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0545.jpg
Obviously, if you try to take the plug out here. All that gravel will drop into the engine. So you need an the use of an airline for about 10 seconds or to spend about half an hour with a blob of blu-tak on the end of a stick. If using an airline, you also need goggle. Really, unless you like sandblasted eyeballs.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0546.jpg
Result.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0547.jpg
Oil and filter change tomorrow. Also plugs, coolant, tank sealant. Perhaps primer on the outside of the tank. Install battery and start reassembly as far as is possible without the tank. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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First thing I did today was go to Halfords to get a plug wrench because I can't find any of mine. Probably lost in the last house move.
True to form, they had every possible shape, style and iteration of plug wrench EXCEPT a long reach 12mm one. Ebay.
Now the bike has a back-end, I can get it up on a paddock stand. A bit less rickety than a car jack under the sump.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0550.jpg
The tank has been drying out overnight in a hot, dehumidfied room. I took some time giving it another blast out with the hairdrier and airline. The last stage of the sealing process is to pour the actual tank sealant in, roll it about until it's coated the whole of the inside then drain off the excess. The stuff looks and behaves in every way like silver hammerite. Draining the excess out took a fair bit of jiggling and rocking.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0553.jpg
I had a fair bit left over so I decided to use it as a primer for any bad bits on the underside of the tank and used the patch cloth to go over a couple of bits where it's been rubbing on the airbox.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0554.jpg
Looks like we're in the home straight now. Drain the coolant by loosening the radiator cap and undoing the drain bolt on the bottom of the water pump cover. Copper grease on the bolt meant it whizzed out. I'll refit it with a dowty washer this time.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0552.jpg
Draining the oil. A ratchet spanner helps make sure I'm definately undoing the drain plug the right way (I still confuse myself when bits are upside down).
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0555.jpg
That oil filter is very corroded so proper tool time!
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0557.jpg
But since it was me who put it on and I put them on hand tight, off it came with minimum fuss. Took longer to get the filter out of the wrench once it was off. New one on the same way.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0558.jpg
And a nice new dowty washer for the sump plug.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0559.jpg
Haters gonna hate. I'm using car oil. This engine has been run on car oil for 70k+ miles. Always used to use castrol GTX but it's getting pricey and hard to find in 10w-40 without diesel additives.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0575.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0576.jpg
Now for the chain. Old faithful Hein Gericke chain tool which has done into double figures of chains now and is still on its original pin. I like EK chain and it's usually cheaper than DID.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0560.jpg
With the adjusters wound right down, the ends of the chain are a pin out. I'll need to loosen it a tooth so it can be joined.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0561.jpg
Remove the excess using the chain tool to push out the pin.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0563.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0564.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0566.jpg
Rivett link. For some reason, KLE500s are really prone to having split links shit themselves. Might be to do with the chain guide? Dunno but I'd recommend rivett links every time. Push the side plate on so it holds in place.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0568.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0569.jpg
Then use the chain tool to push the links all the way on and mushroom the ends.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0570.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0572.jpg
Yay. Chain.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0574.jpg
The tank sealant has hardened by this point. I'm going to need to do something with the outside of the tank so I've masked it up and hit it with some "zinc 182" primer.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0587.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0588.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0589.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0590.jpg
I'm going to use up the last of the stonechip paint on the underside and do the sides of the tank with the rest of that texturised truckbed liner. Trust me, it'll look great.
New battery and check the electrics.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0577.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0578.jpg
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0581.jpg
Faulty front brake light switch and horn. Ebay.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0586.jpg
Replaced those master cylinder reservoir bolts and bolted a whole lot of bits back on (tank cradle, footpegs etc.). Starting to look like it might be ready for an MOT on Friday.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0585.jpg
Tomorrow. Painting tank. Refill coolant. Fit numberplate. Tidy up. Probably move bike back home.
Still waiting for parts to-do list: Reassemble rear master cylinder, replace brake switch, replace horn and change plugs. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.
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I should point out that the reason I'm going into this in excessive detail is so parts of it (or the pictures) may be helpful to someone else.
It's als re-enforced to me how much of a pain in the arse it is getting a bike back on the road that's been standing. Be interesting to totty up how much I've spent too.
Very relevant to people considering buying a cheap shitter/project to do-up. Remember, this bike was ridden from Ullapool to Cumbria and simply parked up and left. There are no parts missing and it wasn't broken. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Not much to report today.
Stonechipped the underside of the tank. Filled up the coolant (it'll need topping off once it's been run), new numberplate and fitted the new horn.
Bunged some of the bodywork back on too. Need to bring a supply of grommets from home to replace some of the missing ones on the bodywork/belly pan.
Needs rear calliper fitting and bleeding, plugs chainging, front brake switch and the tank finishing off. Then it's just a very few bits of bodywork to reattach and it's ready for the MOT. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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It ain't cheap or easy so fair play. I stopped messing with cars when I realised what a bloody timesink it was when you start adding it all up. And if you are doing it from scratch tools and material cost is horrendous
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I too love that feeling when a bolt that looks like it's going to be a bastard to undo - comes away easily because you copa-slipped the bugger like a pro last time round..
Good work. ____________________ NSR125RR - ZXR750H1 - ZX9R E1 - GSF600S - GSF600SK3 - VFR400-NC30 - SV1000N - ST1100-R - CBR900RR-R - GSF1200SK5 - GSF600SK1 - VFR1200FA - GSXR1000K2 - ZZR1400 D8F
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Still no plug spanner ffs.
Enough with the waiting, I can do it again. The heat of the engine running will probably loosen them off a tad anyway.
Tank on.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0642.jpg
Seat on.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0643.jpg
Notice numberplate light isn't working. Spend an hour drilling horriffically rusty screws out.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/kle500/CIMG0646.jpg
Ride into town on enfield, book MOT slot for later today, pick up can of petrol.
Sidepanels and racks back on. Fill with fuel...
Hurredly take racks, side panels, seat and tank back off.
Apply flange sealant to fuel tap flange.
Tank back on. No leaks. Seat, sidepanels, rack back on again.
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Bike in van and half an hour later...
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I'd forgotten how poky this bike was. It's actually going to be quite a hoot. I'll insure it tomorrow and take it for a spin. I'm pleased how well that truck bed liner works on the tank. Just need to watch I don't spill petrol on it, although it's apparently a piece of piss to re-coat if it wears/comes off. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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Brake switch: £5.50
Rust not paint 12.53
Clutch cable: £6.99
Clutch lever £5.75
Dowty washer: £1.26
Clevis joint: £6.89
Stone chip paint £10.90
Tank sealant kit: £35.49
Speedo cable £6.99
Truck bed liner £8.99
Number plate £6.50
Chain. £39.94
Front calliper seals £4.95
Side panel £22.99
Brake pads £19.94
Sparkplugs £5.04
Horn £6.50
Rear calliper seals £17.50
Plastikote BBQ paint £12.50
Engine oil £11.99.
Wemoto order:
Battery
copper washers
oil filter
rear sprocket
open and close throttle cables
£71.69
Total: £320.83
None of this includes the time and the multitude of fittings and spares I had lying about (like braided brake lines, hydraulic fluid, coolant etc).
This bike should also by rights have has two new tyres and a set of brake discs but I had the old wheels dry-stored with new tyres on. The ones I took off it were fucked. So double the above to have truly put it back on the road.
Worth remembering when you see that cheap, high mileage bike that "needs a little work for the MOT". This bike would have passed an MOT the day it was put away in the garage. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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