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Groove
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 10 Jun 2016    Post subject: What's better than one GSXR? Reply with quote

Two GSXR's!

After a getting a taste for track days I decided that I wanted a cheap track hack, which was also road legal.

Last night I picked this up:

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160609_224355_zpscf7mfbt2.jpg

It's a k1 gsxr 600. 38k ish miles. 3 previous owners. Some sporadic history. Ohlins damper, carbon akrapovic exhaust and the consumables seem in reasonable order.

It's been unused for a couple of months and has no MOT.

Cosmetically it's not great, crack in the front fairing around the headlight, ripped seat, scuffs on right fairing and crash bung from a slow spill and both front indicators stems snapped.

I had to fight the spiders off of it and de cobweb it. Dirty is an understatement. Be interesting to see the condition under the grime on the wheels and swing arm.

I did plan on sticking it straight in for an mot after getting home and changing the indicators but i got back later than expected in the dark.

Hitting the first roundabout I thought the wheel bearings had gone, it felt like the front wheel was going where ever it wanted and just horrible. I needed petrol so I checked the tyre pressure just in case, front was 24psi. Upped it to 32 but it made little difference.

It dawned on me a little while later to adjust the damper, it was on the loosest setting. Turned it round to about half ( 9 clicks or so) and huge improvement. I fiddled with it a couple more times and found I was much happier on the tight side (around 3 clicks). Bike felt much more solid, capable and planted.

It's currently got reversed gearing (1 up 5 down) and the rear shock is on its hardest/highest setting. I'm on my tippy toes!

Problems I noticed on the way home:

Main beam bulb is blown
Speedo reading is intermitant. Sometimes it's fine, other times it just read 0mph.

I want to get this road legal asap to do a few track days before the winter when a full strip will be happening.

Plan for now:

Change engine oil/filter
Check what air filter it has and replace or clean
Change spark plugs
Fit new bulbs (might haveone spare)
Fit new indicators (already purchased)
Change the gearing back to 1 down 5 up as it's just confusing Laughing
Check the speed sensor for loose/corrodedNess. Replace if necessary.
Replace ripped seat
Clean and inspect chain. Might need replacement as looking dry and brown.
Give the bike a damn good clean.
Mot

For winter:

Check clearances
Pads and brake fluid, possibly braided hoses
Decide what I'm doing with fairings
Maybe a few cans of Hammerite to tidyou any bits up.

Riding this makes my k6 1000 feel tiny. It feels a lot wider. I also forgot how gutless 600s are up to 10k.

More / better pictures will be coming.

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PostPosted: 22:37 - 12 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

So here it is as i bought it;

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160610_173823_zpsji5yrld9.jpg

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The photos probably do it a bit of justice. Every panel is marked, some cracked or scuffed. Various miss matched or missing bolts. I don think the wheels have been cleaned since the millennium.

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160610_173907_zpssxgltv6l.jpg

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160610_174038_zpspzbnqtj7.jpg

Interesting bodge to fix snapped indicator stems;

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160610_173929_zpsj4ynv00v.jpg

First thing i did was chuch multiple buckets of soapy water at it and attempted to give various gunky bits a decrease and clean. I also cleaned and lubed the chain to see if its worthy of keeping. It is!

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160612_201235_zpsinmla6fc.jpg

I have ordered some fresh oil, oil filter and spark plugs as i have no idea when this was last done. Judging from the oil and the filter, its been some time...

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160612_183117_zpsaqmqyawc.jpg

I then decided I might as well take the tank off and get the plugs out ready. They've definitely seen betters days;

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160612_182126_zpszvaoom4p.jpg

Opened the air box up to be greeted by this K&N, which is currently having a soak to see how well it scrubs up;

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160612_182609_zpsuu6dcvgl.jpg

As it stands right now;

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160612_201224_zpsw714fpea.jpg

Other little jobs I did today included;

Inspect/clean the speed sensor - I hopped this would help the intermittent reading but on putting it back in it still registed 0mph when turning the wheel. I've ordered a new one.

I wired up the left hand side indicator (the right fairing is currently off due to waiting for new oil filter so I havn't done that side as yet). The indicators now blink too fast so I have ordered a relay.

I turned the gear linkage back on the normal way to turn it back to 1 down 5 up. I can't be dealing with jumping between the two bikes with different set ups.

I popped in a spare bulb for the main beam but have not yet tested it.

Stuck the standard sized numberplate on ready for MOT.

TOTAL SPEND SO FAR: £74.94

Next time I am in the garage (and the parts have arrived) i shall be;

Finishing the servicing
Refresh the front brake fluid and rebleed.
Wiring up the right hand indicator
Pop the new relay and speed sensor on

Then it should be MOTable. I am expecting a advisory for the chain guard and possibly the ripped seat (If they get picky?)

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PostPosted: 00:07 - 13 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice bike! Liking what they've done with the indicators as oposed to actually replacing them Laughing i hope that level of incompetent work hadnt repeated itself elsewhere on the bike
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 13 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sean91 wrote:
Nice bike! Liking what they've done with the indicators as oposed to actually replacing them Laughing i hope that level of incompetent work hadnt repeated itself elsewhere on the bike


Well apart from the miss matched/missing bolts all I've found so far is the face the tray that would usually sit in the rear fairing is missing. Therefore everything that bolts to it (various wires/ecu etc were all flopping about under the seat.

I've secured what I can with cable ties for now until I decide what to do with the fairing itself. If I manage to find a set of reasonable condition track fairings for a under 150 I'll do that. If not I'm thinking of trying my hand at fibreglassIng this lot.

I have noticed a full set of k1 1000 track fairings and tank in white for 150 on ebay bit varying results on Google if they would be a straight replacement. Looks like the top, rear and tank should fit. Unsure on the sides. Mudguard won't.
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 13 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're going the fix the fairing route. Might as well plastic weld them.

Soldering iron. Some ABS rods. Job done.

Can even use acetone to melt ABS chunks and make a thick and slurry/glue.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 13 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

That poor bike!

Excellent work bringing it back from the brink.

Like the shape too.

That stick, hilarious Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 13 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

drbaig wrote:
If you're going the fix the fairing route. Might as well plastic weld them.

Soldering iron. Some ABS rods. Job done.

Can even use acetone to melt ABS chunks and make a thick and slurry/glue.


I figured what i could do for the quickest and easiest option is to fill in the headlight hole with fibreglass and use black 3M vinyl to cover the fibreglassing (its black around the headlight anyway) and stick a seat pod on the rear (and fibreglass that if im feeling frisky).

I just havnt decided if i want to be able to sell it as a road bike after or with just track fairings.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 13 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did the air filter survive?
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 14 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:
Did the air filter survive?


To some degree;

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160614_075014_zpsk8fjnvzn.jpg[/img]
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 14 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

New (used) speedo sensor fitted and a quick turn of the back wheel confirms this is now working.

Progress!

Still waiting for the service stuff.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 14 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got bored and went back in the garage this evening to get the brakes bled.

Definitely due a change;

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160614_194613_zpsn2blycow.jpg

Pads are a little lower than i first thought and might come up on the MOT, should last till winter though.

Went to undo the rear bleed nipple;

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160614_201007_zpsdulnqrb5.jpg

That wasn't meant to happen! I guess ill leave that one for now Laughing New rear caliper on the winter list then.

Only other thing was pop the air filter back in the air box.

M&P still don't seem to have dispatched my service bits. Ill ring them tomorrow and cancel if they havn't and buy elsewhere as id like to get this MOT'ed Thursday.
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 14 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photo looks like there is a bit of the nip sticking out, no chance of getting grips on it?

Or, could sacrifice a hex bit if you have one just big/small enough to go in with a bit of a hammer?
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 14 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pigeon wrote:
Photo looks like there is a bit of the nip sticking out, no chance of getting grips on it?

Or, could sacrifice a hex bit if you have one just big/small enough to go in with a bit of a hammer?


The nipple is in the spanner. That's the casting. Well, I thought it was. I don't know how it's not leaking...
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 15 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

the nipple has sheered off, I had the same on old caliper so left it well alone and used one of these

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC1.A0.H0.Xbleed+nipple+banjo+bolt.TRS0&_nkw=bleed+nipple+banjo+bolt&_sacat=0
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 15 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoned m&p at 9am. Got told that even though I went through to the ebay option on the phone, he could not help me find my order or tell if it's anywhere near dispatching and to use ebay to email them.

Emailed them and waited a while for a response. No response came so I rang the number again and asked if I could cancel your order as I really need the stuff and can get a guaranteed delivery for Thursday elsewhere. Was told that he can not cancel it and I need to contact them via ebay (same bloke).

Left another message via ebay that I wanted to cancel the order as I had yet to have any notification of them sending out the order. This was about 10am.

At 1pm I still had not heard nothing so proceeded to order the stuff from sportsbikedirect or what ever it's called. Quickly got an email saying that they only have 2 and not 3 1ltr bottles of oil (the 4ltr was out of stock on the site). Phoned them and changed oil to a slightly more expensive one (5 litres for 24 quid). Get email confirming change and that I will have delivery tomorrow.

4.30pm get an message from eBay from m&p saying my items had been dispatched in the morning (nothing updated on ebay to say so) and that I would have to return the items for a refund Rolling Eyes the tracking says it was not picked up till gone 5pm from themselves. Got a notification at 9pm saying my stuff had been dispatched on ebay.

So tomorrow I've got 2 service kits arriving Laughing damn my impatientNess. Not sure whether to keep the spares for which ever gsxr needs servicing next or refuse the delivery from m&p.

In lighter news mot is booked for Friday morning Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 15 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groove wrote:


Looks new! So now my question is of course, what did you soak it in?
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 16 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mixture of seamen, hot soapy water and bicarb soda. Didn't really soak it as such, a few rinses under the hot tap, shook it about in the hot soap water, repeated a few times and then did the same with the soda. Could have got it better with more soda and more effort.
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 16 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good, I did my first (and only) trackday on my K3 600 and found it coped very well.

How much did you pay?
I sold my black/silver K3 600 with 16k on the clock, bit scruffy but clean enough, some history & pretty much standard for £1,600 last week.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 16 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Az wrote:
Looks good, I did my first (and only) trackday on my K3 600 and found it coped very well.

How much did you pay?
I sold my black/silver K3 600 with 16k on the clock, bit scruffy but clean enough, some history & pretty much standard for £1,600 last week.


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PostPosted: 12:21 - 16 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groove wrote:
Az wrote:
Looks good, I did my first (and only) trackday on my K3 600 and found it coped very well.

How much did you pay?
I sold my black/silver K3 600 with 16k on the clock, bit scruffy but clean enough, some history & pretty much standard for £1,600 last week.


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Very cheap, you did extremely well there!

There's currently some cheap track fairings for this bike on the Track Bike Riders & Racers UK FB page Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 15:48 - 16 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Az, i'll have a look for those!

Right, todays update:

Both packages arrive from M&P and Sportsbikeshop, figured ill keep both as the k6 uses the same parts and will probably be done again this winter.

Though i would fit the M&P kit (came with oil filter, plugs and oil advertised to fit the k1 GSXR 600s) Fitted 3 of the 4 plugs in the k1 and then realised the plug cap does not fit the damn plug. Quick look at the packaging states Champion 8698 plugs and they have a different cap to the NGK CR9E plugs. Not happy. Have fired off an email to M&P to see what they have to say.

Luckily i have the correct plugs from Sportsbike shop so correct plugs, oil and filter all fitted. Had my 6 year old today so she gave me a hand;

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160616_121815_zpsdvcfrid5.jpg

Wired in the other indicator and fitted the relay. Noticed one of the rear indicators now wasn't working Rolling Eyes a quick check of the bulb revealed nothing wrong. Jiggled the wire and bingo, 4 correctly flashing bulbs.

Tested all the other lights and realised the front brake switch was only working intermittent too. Another bodge found;

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160616_125307_zpscmguuhkl.jpg

I did wonder why there was an extra cable (not routed properly) coming from the front brake. For some reason the original brake switch wire has been cut off.

Couldn't find any spade connectors in the garage so i've (poorly) soldered these back together and wrapped in tape. Plugged it back in and now works flawlessly.

Only other issue I noticed was that the akrapovic is blowing at the bottom end of the can near the rivets. Didn't notice this till my hand caught a slight draft in that area. I definitely didn't cover it in tape for tomorrow mornings MOT Whistle

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160616_143454_zpsyqzo0bwq.jpg

Looking forward to giving it a blast tomorrow, hopefully I've not missed anything and it flies through.

And my sperm sitting on the K6, just because;

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/adam673673/Mobile%20Uploads/20160616_114126_zpsizk6mfip.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 16 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good mate. Thumbs Up

Might be an advisory/fail on the missing chain guard on the MOT? Thinking EDIT seems it's just an advisory. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 16 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first k1 was in that colour.

They're really stonking bikes, enjoy.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 16 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first k1 was in that colour.

They're really stonking bikes, enjoy.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 16 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
Looking good mate. Thumbs Up

Might be an advisory/fail on the missing chain guard on the MOT? Thinking EDIT seems it's just an advisory. Thumbs Up


Yeah Im expecting an advisory for that as well as possibly brake pads.

Hopefully it'll pass and I can take it for a blast in some sunshine.

Taking the k6 to the lake district this weekend from Sunday till Wednesday Thumbs Up
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