Few questions on road regestering an offroad bike

[roozor]

I have seen more and more people havning things liek RM250's and KX500 and CR500's on the road.

If i bought an offroadbike, to use for a bit on the road, are their any requirements, like full light kit, speedo, indicators.

Does it cost anything to regester and offroad bike on the road ?

Cheers for all help

Alex

[phill.c]

i know you have to have a front light, back light (brake light), not 100% about the indicators.

[Ste]

You'd firstly have to apply for a V5 with the DVLA with the frame and engine numbers. You'll then need to get it MOT'ed and you could either get a day time only MOT or a full one, for the day time only you would need a rear brake light and rear reflector. You do not need front headlight, rear light or indicators unless you want to get a full MOT. Have a read over this site for all the general MOT requirements.

It costs £38 to register a vehicle with the DVLA. All the details about registering a vehicle are on the DVLA website.

It would also need to be taxed and insured like any other vehicle

[Marc_Buck]

I was considering making a cr250 road legal, i thought it was more hassle than that though, i may reconsider.
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[roozor]

im on your thinking marc, ive seen so many cheap realible offroad bikes (if looked after), so why not use the extra cash i have to supermoto it and get it on the road

[roozor]

where can i find light kits for offroad bikes to buy then :o

[Kickstart]

Hi

Problem is that these moto cross bikes do not have any way of charging the battery so you land up with a total loss system (so not really practical to fit anything other than the minimun legal lighting). Also I think you need an electric horn and a speedo (and I think you technically need a mile counter).

To get the V5 you will need an MOT.

It is probably best to go for one of the enduro versions of these bikes as these will already have a charging system.

All the best

Keith
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[mrchips]

I wouldn't mind putting a CR125 on the road, first away at the lights no sweat. How hard would it be to get insurance for the like of that though?

[roozor]

thats also what was thinking, getting inssurance, would it be hard ?

Also how much does an MOT cost for a bike these days

[cagiva gezzer]

Road Registering your SM (updated 13/04/04)

The following information was supplied by various sources over the past year, however I recently (april 04) tried to register an Enduro bike (OK, so it doesn't have dip/main beam lights and brake lights and stuff, but it's not a MX bike!) . It was brand new and an official UK model - but I've been told by the local office that you now *DO* need an SVA test if you are intending to use the bike on the road at all. Otherwise, you can register it as an 'OFF ROAD' bike (there's no reg fee or road tax) and you get a Q-plate....great!! They've obviously wised up to this recently as they are now being very tight on it. Anyone would think they didn't want your money!

So take the information below with a pinch of salt and be prepared for a punch up....

All vehicles being registered for the road now need either 'type aproval' or an expensive Single Vehicle Aproval test (£70-100) - from June 2003....

I have recently been contacted by several people who have managed to road registered their SMs (CR500's etc) by getting an exemption based on the fact the bike is and ENDURO bike (which of course it is - if you leave the big wheels in!).The qualifying criteria for enduro competition machine is a huge seat height and over 310mm ground clearance. Details are on the DVLA web site...When you get to the box for type approval on the V55/5 form you just put in Competition exempt .

According to the DVLA: An Enduro motorcycle is defined as having the following characteristics:-
a) a minimum seat height of 900 mm - AND
b) a minimum ground clearance of 310 mm


If you don't stand your ground may end up with hassle over emissions and all sort of things on the test. (thickness of the mudguards, width of footpegs, glue used to stick the grips on (OK- I was joking about that last one!!.....))


Other items you will need include:

1. Proof of age (unless you want a Q plate). Classic services (0161 775 9567) can do a certificate based on the frame number, they charged about £30 or you can try approaching the importer direct (Honda UK, Kawasaki UK, KTM, etc.) some manufacturers, Kawasaki for instance, don't charge to provide a proof of age.

2. A MOT if the bike is more than 3 years old (quoting the frame number), daylight use only is easy, all you need is a horn (the Megahorn for pushbikes is about £8 from Halford's). This saves any hassle with lights & indicators. Also remember legal tyres & BS193 stamped or engraved on the silencer. A Speedo' is also a legal requirement but not necessary for MOT (£6 for a Sigma push bike one @ Halford's).

If you need a lighting kit (to get your 'full' MOT) Pro Racing come highly recommended: Pro-Racing, 15 Gresley Close, Drayton Fields, Daventry, Northants. NN1 5RZ, England. Tel +44 (0)1327-301322.

3. Insurance, again you can get this based on the frame number.

4. Personal ID!!! (this is a new one as of Jan 2004!!) - If you're going down the local office to register a bike you will need proof of ID....you have to either take your passport down or licence plus a utility bill or a form id to prove where you live!

Then you can:

5. Phone your local vehicle licencing & registration office, tell them what you intend doing & they will send you a form (v55/5 or v55/4). Fill this in, enclose the documents above & fees for tax & registration (if you're doing it by post rather than in person at the local office) & within 7 days they will send you the new tax disc & reg. no.

Useful links: https://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/ (vehicle inspectorate)
https://www.dvla.gov.uk/ (Driver & vehicle licencing association)


(ripped from supermotech.co.uk )
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[monkeyboy]

i know this is an old thread, but theres alot of shit in it.
My bike is road registered, no lights atall - PERIOD, a battery horn, cheap pushbike speedo and me numberplate - THATS IT.
Right road registering an off road bike for road use DAYTIME ONLY (Note night time use requires lights - but that aint no fun)
My ktm factory race bike is road registered now - so heres a little heads up on how,
1. i got the bike.
2. i contacted ktm and gave them the frame and engine number, they confirmed what the bike was and sent me a 'certificate of newness'- (also referred to as authenticity cert)
3. next i prepped the bike for daytime mot, road legal tyres, battery powered horn (thanks Beer) and overall good mechanical condition. Flew through .
4. next i insured it through bennets on the frame number - 30 days you have to get a registration number to them i.e. get yourself sorted.
5. went into dvla office (just go in no appointment needed) with a completed v55/5 - tick exempt from type approval (the bike will have to be classed as enduro to skip SVA testing), mot certificate, receipt of purchase, certificate of newness, insurance cover note, photo driving licence oh and i had to complete a vat form. After a chat with a seriously boring woman she booked my bike in for 2 weeks later for inspection .Make sure you stress it is an enduro bike. They retain all your paperwork bar your insurance certficate. I paid for a years tax and the inspection there and then on me switch card - bout' 100 quid.
6. inspection day, the guy checked the engine and frame number, measured the clearence from floor to seat and the distance from floor to underside of engine/frame. My seat eight was 940mm and the floor to engine underside was 300mm. He confirmed if it was an enduro - yes i replied 'a ktm 660 factory supermoto....enduro'
7. 3 days later all my paperwork arrives back + tax disc and letter confirming new registration number and authorisation of number plate purchase letter-logbook pending.

EASY.
Another guideline to be classed as an enduro i believe the seat height has to be a minimum of 925mm and the engine underside to floor 300mm. I just jacked mine right up for the inspection which with a little bit of inventiveness can be done to anything.

Also note a speedo is not an mot requirement or even needed for he inspection but is a legal requirment when riding on the road.
HOPE THIS IS AN EASYGUIDE TO FOLLOW
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[Kickstart]

[monkeyboy]

[Kickstart]

Hi

There is no difference at all between an MOT for a bike used in the daytime and one not used in the daytime. Doesn't matter if the MOT tester decides to write on it "daytime use only". Has no legal meaning.

The lighting rules are described in the MOT manual (and in more detail in the contruction and use rules).

Rules on required lighting are here:-

https://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_6.htm#nschiobligatorylampreflectorrearmarkingdevice

Strange bit is where it says :-

[garyd]

monkey is spot on ...side by side those MOTs look identical,no wording to say daytime only!!!!!

[monkeyboy]

[Kickstart]

[KTM Gordo]

[monkeyboy]

yeah well said poppets
well to the rest of this country a 'daytime mot' is a reality, ive actually got one! albeit its for a unicorn...but thats not the point.
Any peeps looking in it is worth road registering off road bikes, it is very easy and if you follow the steps you'll succeed.
Comeon..theres nowt beter than riding a bike not meant/produced for road use....make ya mind up.
Peace out ******
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[MarJay]

[monkeyboy]

[monkeyboy]

https://www.visordown.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334395&highlight=daytime+mot

https://www.visordown.com/forums/showthread.php?t=322107&highlight=daytime+mot

https://www.visordown.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314565&highlight=daytime+mot

''This inspection applies to: all machines, except those which have neither front nor rear position lamps, or have such lamps permanently disconnected, painted over or masked that are
. only used during daylight hours, and
. not used at times of seriously reduced visibility

If this situation occurs the machine presenter should be issued with an advisory notice recording the above and it should also be recorded on the carbon copy of the VT20."

THIS IS 'COMMONLY' KNOWN AS DAYTIME MOT:)
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[Kickstart]

Hi

[KTM Gordo]

[monkeyboy]

NAH JUST FUNNY AS FOOK
I do love coming on these forums with peeps who play on words, if anything ya give me a good chuckle!!
pulling teeth?? ya a dentist too?LMFAO!
or is it 'removing teeth'???
Ya know though sweethearts peeps commonly call this 'myth' a 'daytime mot'......sorry about that, if i were you id start a petition at no.10's website or somethin'!
Anyways i would say that anyone wanting to get an 'mot with advisories' done (shhhhhhhhhh people commonly refer to it as daytime mot ) do it!!
I love the race bike look and the plod have never pulled me to date! But dont ride at night with no lights (the mot certificate will say lights n/a - its a hint honest! )

IM GONNA ENJOY THIS FORUM
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