Your views on the karma system?

NSR125-Kid-UK · Attention Whore Joined: 03 May 2003 Karma :

If someone acts an arse though, other members of the forum erm. "put him right Smile

. That's what the F&FW forum should be for, in addition to ranting Laughing

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mr.z · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Karma :

Its quite probably one of the reasons this is such a good forum, idiots and loosers are gotten rid of sharpish, trouble makers and spamers can be offed without a mod haveing to reach for the ban button...

Theres allot of other forums ive been on and was supprised at how.. well crap they were, threads instantly going off topic with the usual members going off on a "oh yeh i had toast for lunch" conversation, annoying the hell out of whoever posted it only to have abuse hurled at them even by the so called mods Rolling Eyes

Only wish all forums had something like this...
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JimboJ · Manc Pikey Joined: 23 Aug 2002 Karma :

It's the internet, people get abusive, it is funny so why stop it?

If people are abusive then a mod can ban them. If, heaven forbid a person is abusive for a whole 24 hours will it really hurt someone? only the really stupid people who let people with a keybaord offend them. What will be said on the internet will be said, people hide behind keybaords, it's funny. Heck I've done it.

Karma = bollocks, who needs it? at the end of the day we're all going to be killed in horific motorcycle accidents (or so our parents want us to beleive to stop us doing it, Karma is the least of our worries)
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Personally I'd rather be somewhere where people aren't constantly abusing each other; one of the reasons I don't like to hang around Visordown etc.
While I can take the abuse, it's just nicer for me without it.

Born2bVile · Spanner Monkey Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

The Karma system is a form of censorship, and I hate censorship.

Wether you agree or disagree with anything I say, you have the right of reply. However, if enough people disagree, I have no right of reply.

I first found this site via a forum invasion. Yeah, sure we came over to wind people up, but the karma system was used to ban everybody who joined that day, irrespective of where they were from. And of course, once you're banned, you have no right of reply.

'Yay, we kept this forum good and clean'.

'Who were they?'

'Dunno, some of them didn't even say anything, but we karma'd them good. Yeehaw'

George Dubya would have been proud.

Cheers,

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

But it doesn't ban anyone!

It restricts usage of BCF to being able to send a PM to Korn. Razz

Don't think it would have banned everyone who joined that day, just those who had provoked the karma system enough to warrent it banning them, which is good as the system bans people playing around with forum invasions without the need for mods to interveen.

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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Karma has good and bad points, I kind of like the post rating system for opinion terms only i.e. I will rate a post "funny" because I think it's FUNNY.. I don't do it to "reward" the poster.. If we didn't have post ratings then I'd just reply saying "lol" or something. Post ratings mean you don't have to make that "lol" post... which is good. That is POST RATING SYSTEM though, not kama. I think post ratings, good or bad, should NOT reward a forum user NOR anything else. Karma itself I don't like at all. Post ratings then yes I like that Thumbs Up

Friends system, in theory, is a good idea. But it doesn't work and never will.. If I want someone to have my contact details then they'll be told it - I'm never gonna stick it in me profile and I know a LOT of people are the same! I will happily let Korn delete all the friends from my profile, go ahead Thumbs Up

I'm still not going to stick my details there... The only people I actually have set as a friend (not those that have set ME as a friend..) are people who I have met.. I've only set them as a friends because I've met them.. doesn't mean I want them to have my number Razz

I personally don't understand why this forum needs a karma system, it's not really that big and most users are "main" forum users.. that's what makes it so good, so why have a system that is ripping the forum apart. The system is obviously pissing members off despite the fact they still have decent karma!! That's what it comes down to really.. Punishing the good members just so the mods don't have to do as much and confusing the new members to the point where they can't be bothered to get used to the forum Thumbs Down

"If it's not broke, don't fix it" Thumbs Down

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To kind of prove a point here..

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=38466

MAYHEM4 - new member of recent times, generally accepted and welcomed onto the forum, has green karma so hasn't been a twat or anything, yet he feels the need to complain about karma... a lot of people will get bored of that and won't bother posting here quite as much until they can't be bothered to come back at all.... He's a new member, why should he be punished with pop ups, annoying notices, not being able to post short messages etc.. when he's DONE NOTHING WRONG.. Those messages may stop when he gets higher karma, but what if he can't be fecked to stay around for that long because the karma pissed him off too much? If you get what I'm saying Confused

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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Born2bVile · Spanner Monkey Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Just had a nosey at the ratings given to me.

And I've noticed one negative rating, so I checked the thread to see why.

Guess what? No reason, no argument.

No excuse!

If you don't like my opinion, at least have the balls to explain why.

Down-rating without explanation shows a complete lack of conviction in your side of the argument.

Cheers,

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Git · Brolly Dolly Joined: 17 Dec 2003 Karma :

I like it, it's a very fair system, it can tell when your serious or joking Laughing

McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

Mr Pants! · I Karma Joined: 29 May 2004 Karma :

What really upsets me, it really really p1sses me off is my title, "I love Karma" I think not!!!!

Laughing

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Adam_P · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Karma :

I like the karma system it's one of the things that makes BCF different to other forums. Can you imagine the crap that would go on if it wasn't in place?
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Mr Pants! · I Karma Joined: 29 May 2004 Karma :

JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

I'm under the illusion that the "who can suck their own cock" thread is the only thing that is keeping you here. Razz

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cliff · Doctor Sicknote Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Karma :

Ninja · Caption Abuser Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Karma :

"No"

Theres no benefit in it being operated.
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Milo · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Karma :

BCF is here and getting stronger...so the karma is obviously doing it's job well. Thumbs Up

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Ninja · Caption Abuser Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Karma :

It would do that anyway if adequately moderated. The benefits of karma are only perceived - there are no real benefits and plenty of detrimental effects ... bandwidth and resource are used by completely inappropriate flames and 'wars' that arise or are based on nothing more than how 'well' karma is doing ... or not ...

It is a Pink Elephant ...

Laughing

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Look at forums that are regularly moderated.

The moderators get all sorts of shit and all sorts of arguments are started because one person's post wasn't removed while another's was.

I'm glad that I very rarely have to moderate things and when I do, most of the time it's just moving a thread to a more suitable section.
Only time I have to actually edit a post 99% of the time is to add a 'not work safe', or to change a link so that it works etc.

sickpup · Old Timer Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Karma :

Couldn't really give a shit about the Karma system, more bothered that I can't find a list of the mods.

iCraig · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Karma :

The ones that are the mods are the names in green on the online users list.

And as far as I know, G, Bendy, Stew, TiN and Kickstart are the mods. Smile

The list of them is here.

jonboy · Trackday Trickster Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

I think there's a good case for having a disagree option which doesn't actually give out negative karma. People in that way can express their view on a post without worrying about censorship issues, and posters can see how their opinion was received.

I often disagree with posts, but don't rate them as such because I don't want to give out negative karma because someone has a different point of view to me.