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PostPosted: 01:06 - 21 Sep 2005    Post subject: Silverstone National - 12/13th November (£85) Reply with quote

Anyone interested in this?

There's about four of us from work probably doing one of the days. Hottrax are running trackdays on both Sat 12th and Sun 13th November. Cost is £85 for one day or £150 for both.

https://www.hottrax-online.com/index.php?cPath=22_51_54

We're planning on waiting nearer the time to check the weather and then book accordingly (unless both days are going to be washed out! Sad )
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 25 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, may be tempted nearer the time if weather looks ok. The national circuit is very bleak though, nothing like the full GP track...
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 25 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korn wrote:
The national circuit is very bleak though, nothing like the full GP track...


I actually think the best corners from the GP circuit are included in the National circuit (the part where you come infield - Priory, I think), and it also provides an excellent right hander (that's not on the GP circuit) as you rejoin the GP circuit just before the bridge.

Having said all that, I have't ridden it before though, just the GP track.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 25 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best bits of Silverstone for me are the Maggots / Beckets complex - the whole left-right-left-right-left sequence and how you have to move around on the bike to take it at speed - and from entering Farm down into and through Bridge - flat out through the high speed left hander then braking under the bridge and throwing it right. Magic! Cool

On the national circuit Woodcote is taken at much higher speed so the grip issues with the formula 1 grid markings are made worse (and again even more so in the wet) and braking/turnin for Copse is also faster so the bumps there cause more problems. Think of it as highside-city followed by lowside-ville Wink
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 25 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korn wrote:
On the national circuit Woodcote is taken at much higher speed so the grip issues with the formula 1 grid markings are made worse (and again even more so in the wet) and braking/turnin for Copse is also faster so the bumps there cause more problems. Think of it as highside-city followed by lowside-ville Wink


But the National Circuit uses the same crappy chicane as the GP circuit, doesn't it (and not Luffield following into Woodcote)? I thought all bikes used that chicane now, in order to keep the speed down on the straight (certainly the BSB boys do, when on the National circuit).
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't suppose I could tempt you with Cadwell on those dates for £69 (for one day)? Smile
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But the National Circuit uses the same crappy chicane as the GP circuit, doesn't it (and not Luffield following into Woodcote)?

Not as far as I know, think they use the 'normal' way round. Shame as I quite like the WSB route, if you treat the runup as a double apex and keep the power on all the way round it almost makes the actual chicany bit acceptable Razz
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Don't suppose I could tempt you with Cadwell on those dates for £69 (for one day)? Smile


There's a few of us going from round here, and it's a first trackday for a couple; Cadwell might scare them! Plus, I'm the only one with a trailer. They don't want to travel too far on their first day, and I think Silverstone makes a good first trackday.

I do want to do Cadwell again, but I guess it'll have to wait until next year now.

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Not as far as I know, think they use the 'normal' way round. Shame as I quite like the WSB route, if you treat the runup as a double apex and keep the power on all the way round it almost makes the actual chicany bit acceptable Razz


I'm 95% sure it uses the chicane and not the "normal" corner.
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.racingcircuits.net/UnitedKingdom/England/Silverstone%20National.gif
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I saw that, but I believe it's out of date.
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

They show the correct (current) bike GP circuit:
https://www.racingcircuits.net/UnitedKingdom/England/Silverstone%20Motorcycle%202003.gif
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could always do one day of each Razz.
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You got me thinking about the layout now, so I did some Googling:

"The motorcycle version of the Silverstone National circuit is 90 per cent of the usual car circuit but cuts short before Luffield into a tighter, almost hairpin, right. You then have a very short straight before the controversial left/right chicane.

Controversial because it's so tight that you actually turn back on yourself before firing out just before the traditional Woodcote corner and the start/finish line."
https://www.radicalextremesportscars.com/media/fastfeud/index.php

"Great track, quick and really flows - apart from the bastard abortion of a poxy chichane which should be burnt for the greater good of racing."
https://www.visordown.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-118828.html

"I prefer the National circuit to the fairly pointless GP loop, mainly as I love the chicane on the National... possibly my fave circuit, good facilities too, and I love racing here."
https://www.bookatrack.com/-pV?5

But I have been known to be wrong in the past... Wink
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, game on Laughing

Length of national circuit without the disputed chicane: 1.639 Miles
Length of national circuit as raced by MRO in May 2005: 1.639 Miles
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you know they're not exactly the same length...? Razz

Ah, sod it. I'll phone them in the morning!
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Providing the weather's good - I'll be up for this! Thumbs Up Another "first timer" though Wink
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 26 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korn wrote:
Alright, game on Laughing


I called Hottrax and they said the National includes the chicane. So there! Razz Wink

Dracan wrote:
Providing the weather's good - I'll be up for this! Thumbs Up Another "first timer" though Wink


Very Happy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 03 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

*bump*

Weather's looking alright at the moment for this. Will be booking towards the end of next week if it's still looking okay (got two chances anyway - Sat or Sun).

Plenty of spaces at the moment:

Sat
Novice: 13
Inters: 12
Fast: 20

Sun
Novice: 24
Inters: 19
Fast: 22
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 04 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be up for it, I'll see how the moneys looking on monday.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 04 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver, you doing both days?
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 04 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bout a week to early for me, should get the CBR sorted this weekend and MOTed next.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 04 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
Silver, you doing both days?


No, just whichever day looks less like rain (Sunday at the moment)!
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 05 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might pop down for some photographs got some new bits to try out.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 09 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both days are still looking good, although Sunday looks better at the moment:

Metcheck
https://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=NN12

BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=2838

Yahoo!
https://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/UKXX0888_c.html?force_units=1

Weather Channel
https://uk.weather.com/weather/local/NN12?x=0&post=nn12&code=code&y=0

Providing it all stays the same, I'll be booking tomorrow for Sunday Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 09 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've still not made up my mind yet. I'm a bit skint at the mo - but I may possibly be thinking sod the money! If I'm not doing it, I may still pop along with the camera anyway. When's the latest we can book? Is it something which we can book on the day if there's places left?
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