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ebo
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 01 Mar 2006    Post subject: Leg out Reply with quote

I've been getting back in the swing cornering supermoto style with the leg straight out takes some getting used to after ''test riding'' !

I dont think it makes much difference except it looks cool! Have any of you's tryed it and what do you think?
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 01 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saved a couple of slips i've had with the ol' leg out.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 01 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

only if it's needed, look a bit daft doing it round every corner on the street lol. usually if im drifting wide I'll put my leg out for co-ordination.

it worries me sometimes though, think i might fall off with my leg straight and break it.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 03 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

the idea of leg out (forward) is to put more weight on the front under heavy sharp cornering, i see loads of people sticking there leg out to the side which dont really do sheet. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 04 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep seeing 'ped bois doing this for cornering, and while wearing trainers too...

I'm worried that one day the foot will make contact with the floor and have the product of a korean sweat shop plastic welded to their feet...

... What Am I saying? I'm not worried at all! It would serve 'em right!
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PostPosted: 06:45 - 05 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

on supermoto you can jam your foot between the peg and frame if you dont take it off the footrest so it saves you coming off.
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PostPosted: 06:22 - 15 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do it sometimes on me KLE.

Completely and utterly pointless, fucking funny none the less!

I have a quick 5 mins of the dakar on my way home from work. It's actually just a rather twisty north Cheshire country lane, but to me, for that moment, I'm in the desert! Wink Laughing

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PostPosted: 00:06 - 02 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

carried my first pillion passenger legally today had the leg out once or twice but im not sure if ill make a habbit of it though Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 02 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always saw leg out as a safety thing. I assumed people were doing it because they were anticipating falling off and didn't want to smash their leg under the bike. Wouldn't make sense to do it on the road or at higher speeds because of the damage you'd do if your foot hit the ground.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 02 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was told by a guy who races supermotos, that its so there is more weight over the front wheel
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 02 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also allows you to get a lower angle on a corner than you would be able to get with your feet on the pegs.

Like this.

https://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8898/windhamglenhelen036zv.jpg

Or this.

https://motochat.com/uploads/1134667452/gallery_2_1_48417.jpg
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 03 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also support the bike if any of the tyres decide to give way. like motogp riders save slides with their knees. occasionally.
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PostPosted: 03:12 - 29 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looney wrote:
It also allows you to get a lower angle on a corner than you would be able to get with your feet on the pegs.

Like this.

https://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8898/windhamglenhelen036zv.jpg

Or this.

https://motochat.com/uploads/1134667452/gallery_2_1_48417.jpg


that would bloody hurt if he hit a bit of higher ground!
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PostPosted: 02:48 - 30 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
i was told by a guy who races supermotos, that its so there is more weight over the front wheel


ive been watching quite a bit of motocross racing on a tv channel called 'extreme sports channel'

I am now pretty sure the leg out serves the same function as the knee down. IE you can lean th bike close to the angle at which it will slip, and if it does, you correct with the knee/ foot down to arrest the slip.

This is what I had though was true originally and I now think the supermoto school guy who told me different was wrong.

so i agree with lilredmachine

Looney wrote:
It also allows you to get a lower angle on a corner than you would be able to get with your feet on the pegs.


maybe so, but i have seen motocross riders do it when their lean angle isnt enough for pegs to be on the floor, but they do dab the floor with a foot to prevent a slide
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 30 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all about moving the centre of gravity. Leg out and forwards moves the centre of gravity forwards and towards the side you are cornering. This allows a creater angle of lean and 'harder' cornering before you break traction with the front tyre.

Should be accompanied by hanging your arse off the saddle to the same side for maximum effect.

Ultimately, if you are doing extreme offroad type stuff, you can even shift some of the weight off the bike onto your foot and lay the bike down in a speedway style (speedway bikes only have one footpeg).

Do not attempt to ride like this unless riding a tuned to the limit, methanol burning, 500cc single cylinder bike with a single gear and no brakes on loose gravel sounds like your idea of fun
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 01 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me sticking my boot down has saved a couple of offs for me, felt it gonna give way, stick the boot down and it sorta stabilizes it you could say.
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PostPosted: 04:47 - 05 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was up the betterish bings @ philipston and i found my self doing it alot more than on the road. It doe's atleast make you feel more stable wheen yer super slick tires are sliding about! Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 05 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talked about this with a mate who races supermoto.

It is to get you weight right over the fron of the bike through body positioning. However your leg would get trapped/you couldn't lean very far if your leg was in so you have to put it out. Can also help if the front tucks in apparently.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 13 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh|RD125LC wrote:
Me sticking my boot down has saved a couple of offs for me,



Saved one off, caused another after I stomped on the floor a little too hard and went over the other side and under a staionary bus Embarassed Shifty
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 13 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:25 - 14 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Do not attempt to ride like this unless riding a tuned to the limit, methanol burning, 500cc single cylinder bike with a single gear and no brakes on loose gravel sounds like your idea of fun

You mean like i do?

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PostPosted: 03:34 - 15 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was watching some dirt bikers in a field today and saw another use of leg out

on a tight turn, they would shift their weight off the back wheel onto the front wheel and their foot, theyd then spin the back of the bike round to exit the corner faster. They'd also do a long stride with their foot pushing the bike forward.

so leg out is multipurpose
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 15 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
i was watching some dirt bikers in a field today and saw another use of leg out

on a tight turn, they would shift their weight off the back wheel onto the front wheel and their foot, theyd then spin the back of the bike round to exit the corner faster. They'd also do a long stride with their foot pushing the bike forward.

so leg out is multipurpose


In a field at the swancote?...they were pit bikes.

Reading the above they sound like super humans with full size off road bikes.

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PostPosted: 14:52 - 15 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

not super humans
and yeah they were off road pit bikes, but there are bigger motorcross bikes that do it

in another thread, someone described this thing that a bike did in a film, and someone said it was a motocross thing and described it

similar to what the pit bikes were doing but i understood it more seeing them do it

with a powerful motorcrsos bike, what they do is slow down for a sharp bend, have the bike leaned over and dump the clutch, and the back end swings right round. i watch a bit on satelite tv

obviously on the little pit bikes they didnt have so much power so it was more about the stride with the leg out, than much power from the back wheel. similar thing tho

watching those pit bikes made me wish i had got that dr350.

maybe one day when i become more conscientious about cleaning bikes
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 15 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

on an old moto-x bike just use a power washer colin.

particularly if it has had the electrics removed. Even if it hasn't you can still use one if you are careful.
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