Tories to axe Human Rights Act (at last!)

[Mister James]

[Itchy]

no it shouldn't be canned but modified akin to the outlaw system:
with certain guarentees for all criminal or not:

no cruel and unusual treatment (which should be normal anyway since we have loads of unsafe convictions if you kill beat or maim people later who are found to be innocent say sally Clarke or Angela Cannings how can you compensate them)

right to a fair trial

innocent before proven guilty.


Non outlaws have more rights than outlaws and convicted criminals and hence the system favours them instead , you know the rights to life
free association
family
etc

Removing it completely at a stroke removes the rights of the law abiding too , and since NL are dark corrupt and meglomanical you can't trust them to remove all these rights from law abiding people esp since it is virtually guarenteed they will slip in a pay rise and some exploitative powers akin to a stazi state.
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[Itchy]

anyway allthe tories need to do to get in is wait,

to guarentee it,

to scrap the pay as you drive system and say NL will introduce it , which 96% of drivers don't likr (thats 27 million votes at a stroke).

For the environmentalists

Reduce SVO and bio diesel taxes to what they were last year which currently makes biodiesel and SVO as expensive as normal diesel and petrol.

Can nuclear power in favour of clean coal (which increases each KWh by 2p which separates all the C02 from the exhaust of coal plants and pumps them into oil spaces under the sea) allowing 100% capital allowance on this , this will pay for itself.
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[zaknafien]

Should be canned.

Although knowing the government we'll get the UK equivalent of the US patriot act 1 & 2 to replace it.
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[plugger147]

I'm all in favour of it, lets hope they can do the same with political correctness next.
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[Zimbo]

[Itchy]

going back to the magna carta would be good but most of that has been repealed and replaced
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[Itchy]

[Tarmacsurfer]

[Itchy]

there was a quote inthe papers a while ago saying that the queen and her ilk cost us all the price of a loaf of bread , since a loaf of bread is floating round the 80P mark , thats the figure I use.
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[@17500rpm]

the day people commit proper sicko acts is the day they loose their human rights IMO

sooner the better.

[RickHolt]

I wish there were just more people with 'common' sense in positions of power. Everything shouldn't have to be so set in stone. Leaves everything open to abuse I know, but things aren't exactly fair as they are.

Watch anything political and it's like a big game. None of them seem to realise that they're running the country. Instead of picking holes in eachothers arguements, they should get on with running the country and treat it more like a private company.

Rick.

[innominate]

The brave thing to to would be to keep it & work within it.


As I want the rights given to me in HR legislation. I can deal with a few nasty people abusing it as a price worth paying.
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I, as a responsible adult human being, will never concede the power to anyone to regulate my choice of what I put into my body, or where I go with my mind. From the skin inwards is my jurisdiction, is it not? I choose what may or may not cross that border. Here I am the customs agent. I am the coast-guard. I am the sole legal and spiritual government of this territory, and only the laws I choose to enact within myself are applicable.

[Mister James]

[Itchy]

listen to what Blair is saying he says he wants powers to overturn court decisions , such that the enshrined sort of law where whence found not guilty in a trial by a jury of peers , he wants such a power to turn this into a guilty verdict.

this is unsafe , esp with the bad charactor rules and retrials , they should have the Scottish unproven verdict which doens't mean you are innocent it just means the case the CPS brings is too weak and its more a case of we blody well know you did it.
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[zaknafien]

[innominate]

Only real solution, is to drag everyone else up to our standards of living.

Then nobody would be arsed coming here & the arguments from both sides) would be invalid anyway.



I trust and respect Cameron for more than Blair, & that coming from someone who ideologically hates the Tories.
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I, as a responsible adult human being, will never concede the power to anyone to regulate my choice of what I put into my body, or where I go with my mind. From the skin inwards is my jurisdiction, is it not? I choose what may or may not cross that border. Here I am the customs agent. I am the coast-guard. I am the sole legal and spiritual government of this territory, and only the laws I choose to enact within myself are applicable.

[Itchy]

[Itchy]