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tatters Exxon Valdez
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Artillery never is, still hit and miss even in todays high tech world. ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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They,ve etiher got nasty or stupid bastreds spotting for them then or non at all!!, can,t really miss the UN in there bright blue armour and helemts. ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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Well, we know we know where our forces are going to be deployed next Fucking disgraceful! If only the UN wasnt so impotent ____________________ TL1000s, KDX200 |
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Israel doing whatever they want to with impunity and american backing ?
always been like this and probably always will be
They sunk a british warship that was listening in on their activities in the 6 day war. We then helped them hush it up
An american intelligence ship was also sunk for similar reasons but the americans didnt make a secret of it. However they did recall rescue ships sent to pick up survivors. President Johnson ordered the recall with the comment that he did not care if every man drowned and the ship sank, but that he would not embarrass his allies.
The warship listening in heard that the israelis were slaughtering captured soldiers in warehouses.
They are probably doing similar things in Lebananon that they dont want the outside world to know about. ____________________ colin1 is officially faster than god |
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The soldiers who were killed contacted the UN 10 times !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't get me wrong, I am normaly pro Israel, but what its doing now is beyond belief.
Could you imagine bombing Dublin in the 90s because of a handful of IRA on the border.
Its mental.
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At this rate we're going to have a hell of a test as to just how far Israel can go before the US/UK condemn their actions. Evidently they've not done anything wrong so far. ____________________ Photos and that |
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colin1 wrote: |
An american intelligence ship was also sunk for similar reasons but the americans didnt make a secret of it. However they did recall rescue ships sent to pick up survivors. President Johnson ordered the recall with the comment that he did not care if every man drowned and the ship sank, but that he would not embarrass his allies.
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Humanity, or charity, is, as Sun Tzu states repeatedly, a fatal flaw in a general. A true general, he says, does not love the people, because it makes him weak. For example, if the local population must be pillaged or uprooted in order to achieve certain war objectives, the general will have no qualms doing just that. A true general takes very good care of his army, but he does not love it. He takes care of his army, because he needs a good fighting tool. But when the time comes to sacrifice his men's lives for the sake of a well-executed obfuscation, he will sacrifice them without as much as batting an eye and he will send them to their deaths in a useless charge toward an objective he does not even care to take. A true general is not without human feelings, but he does not let such feelings rule him. This may not be in line with your idea of virtue. But if it is not, then what are you doing playing this game? Diplomacy is not a nice game, and if you have not noticed this until now, you should. If you are racked with guilt after taking an ally's home center, when you know that there is no way to succeed without doing so, you can be sure that your guilt is not the quality of a successful general. Play dispassionately and single-mindedly toward your objectives, or you risk not achieving them.
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You quote as if that justify's it, which of course it does not.
But then again what should we expect, Mr Kelman. ____________________ 02 Firestorm. |
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zaknafien wrote: | You quote as if that justify's it, which of course it does not.
But then again what should we expect, Mr Kelman. |
Sun Tzu; The Art of War(6 BC) wrote: |
Humanity, or charity, is, as Sun Tzu states repeatedly, a fatal flaw in a general. A true general, he says, does not love the people, because it makes him weak. For example, if the local population must be pillaged or uprooted in order to achieve certain war objectives, the general will have no qualms doing just that. A true general takes very good care of his army, but he does not love it. He takes care of his army, because he needs a good fighting tool. But when the time comes to sacrifice his men's lives for the sake of a well-executed obfuscation, he will sacrifice them without as much as batting an eye and he will send them to their deaths in a useless charge toward an objective he does not even care to take. A true general is not without human feelings, but he does not let such feelings rule him. This may not be in line with your idea of virtue. But if it is not, then what are you doing playing this game? Diplomacy is not a nice game, and if you have not noticed this until now, you should. If you are racked with guilt after taking an ally's home center, when you know that there is no way to succeed without doing so, you can be sure that your guilt is not the quality of a successful general. Play dispassionately and single-mindedly toward your objectives, or you risk not achieving them.
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Answers your question spot on, his virtue is different from yours. ____________________ "You don't know the power of the dark side." |
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senna_f4 wrote: | Sun Tzu; The Art of War(6 BC) wrote: |
Humanity, or charity, is, as Sun Tzu states repeatedly, a fatal flaw in a general. A true general, he says, does not love the people, because it makes him weak. For example, if the local population must be pillaged or uprooted in order to achieve certain war objectives, the general will have no qualms doing just that. A true general takes very good care of his army, but he does not love it. He takes care of his army, because he needs a good fighting tool. But when the time comes to sacrifice his men's lives for the sake of a well-executed obfuscation, he will sacrifice them without as much as batting an eye and he will send them to their deaths in a useless charge toward an objective he does not even care to take. A true general is not without human feelings, but he does not let such feelings rule him. This may not be in line with your idea of virtue. But if it is not, then what are you doing playing this game? Diplomacy is not a nice game, and if you have not noticed this until now, you should. If you are racked with guilt after taking an ally's home center, when you know that there is no way to succeed without doing so, you can be sure that your guilt is not the quality of a successful general. Play dispassionately and single-mindedly toward your objectives, or you risk not achieving them.
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Besides virtue having nothing to do with it can I also ask why you decided to steal a piece from an essay on the game of 'Diplomacy' and accredit it to Tzu when he in fact said no such thing?
Sun Tzu wrote: | Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look upon them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death. |
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zaknafien wrote: |
Sun Tzu wrote: | Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look upon them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death. |
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Sun Tzu wrote: | Regard your soldiers as your children, |
Take care of them as you would your children
Sun Tzu wrote: | and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; |
Sacrifice them for your cause, regardless of your feeling
Sun Tzu wrote: | look upon them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death. |
Keep them fit, a fighting force, lead them, make them to respect you, they will do your bidding however foolish.
The art of war is not literal, it requires a minimum itellect for the correct understanding of the encrypted message ____________________ "You don't know the power of the dark side." |
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senna_f4 wrote: | zaknafien wrote: |
Sun Tzu wrote: | Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look upon them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death. |
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Sun Tzu wrote: | Regard your soldiers as your children, |
Take care of them as you would your children
Sun Tzu wrote: | and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; |
Sacrifice them for your cause, regardless of your feeling
Sun Tzu wrote: | look upon them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death. |
Keep them fit, a fighting force, lead them, make them to respect you, they will do your bidding however foolish.
The art of war is not literal, it requires a minimum itellect for the correct understanding of the encrypted message |
Hang on, Are you saying that what the yanks did was a good thing? Or that Israel was right to bomb the UN? ____________________ SavageKymco wrote: lol yea yea, im just gettin food here, keep my strength up you know. all this killing takes a lot out of a guy Ha ha |
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It truly makes me wish I'd taken the military route at 16 rather than doing engineerimg at college and getting nothing for it I think Israel is our next theatre of war and I'd sure like to be doing something about them... blind I know ____________________ TL1000s, KDX200 |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 322 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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