Thought Police?

[Mister James]

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/5327826.stm

[matt_uk]

tbh im 17,

and id rather watch porn with a 16/17 yr old girl in it.. than a middle age woman

am i a pedo, would i get arrested for it?

i dont think so..

its a stupid law, which need to be sorted out really


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[instigator]

As much as I'd want to see him locked up for it, I can't see it being a 'crime'. The guy clearly needs mental help. Is any offered to these people?

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[colin1]

shock horror ! i agree with mister james on a current affairs topic

all the guy did is doctor some pics to make womens bodies look like the ones of little girls

hardly a crime so i have no idea how they managed to define it as one

maybe he should have been imprisoned indefinitely as a result of previous convictions, and maybe it was a condition of his release that he didnt do certain things and if he did he would go to prison indefinitely as a result of those crimes(but it doesnt say that)

other wise, yeah, we live in a thought crime country

hopefully it will get overturned on appeal, or we shd hold al previously convicted pedos indefinitely, all burglers, all drink drivers, etc etc
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[Robby]

A bit worrying really. Not only has he commited no crime that afftected anyone else here, he also didn't commit any known crime. And then got 15 months for it.

I wonder that the judges view would be on people having Kitty Young videos, she looks and acts about 12.

[G]

Never mind the porn stars dressed up as school girls, what about the numerous pop-stars that have done so, then acted in a very sexually aware way in music videos?

Further more, could it become illegal for people to shave 'down there'?

[Robby]

[phk6]

to be fair hes sick, altho from a point that the other 17 year old kid mentioned, im also 17, i would also rather watch a lass of my age being nailed on camera, but to be fair if me or the other guy whos 17 was found with vids of 17 yr old lass's getting done then im sure it would be looked upon as 'normal' due to our age.

but for a man of his age to be found with stuff like that it would not be acceptable, at all.
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[Mister James]

He wasn't found with pictures of under-aged girls, he was found with pictures of adults that had been modified to look younger.

Weird perhaps (although again I cite the continued attractions of school uniform nights at clubs and the like) but not a crime, surely?
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[colin1]

oil of ulay should be made illegal
all these women intentionally attempting to make themselves look younger

we need a crack down.

its criminal to try to make older women look younger
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[Tunny]

I can feel little sympathy for this particular man either, but I do agree that the law used against him is a disgrace. I sent this letter to my MP yesterday:

Dear Mr Davey,

Concerns over Stafford Sven Tudor-Miles and “Virtual Child Pornography”

I am writing to express my deep concern at the indefinite jailing of Stafford Sven Tudor-Miles by Teeside Crown Court on Friday 8 September 2006, for the crime of “making indecent images of children”. Firstly these images did not feature children at all, but adult models posing nude. Tudor-Miles used computer software to alter the images such that the models appeared younger than they actually were. Secondly, the images were intended for Tudor-Miles’ own personal use; there is no suggestion that he supplied (or ever intended to supply) them to anyone else.

The court has ruled that although the juvenile aspects of Tudor-Miles’ images were entirely of his own creation, he has still committed a crime. If so, then surely an artist who depicts such scenes as pencil-and-paper drawings could just as easily be prosecuted. How far is this concept likely to be extended? Could a novelist who depicts scenes of child-sex (Stephen King for instance, in his novel It) be similarly prosecuted? And what of theatrical performances? Should the Royal Shakespeare Company be prosecuted for performing Romeo and Juliet, in which Romeo makes love to the 14-year-old heroine?

Ray Savage, the “forensic computer expert” for Cleveland Police is reported as saying “To create an image of a child by altering an image of an adult is just as serious as downloading child porn, and probably more worrying in terms of the time taken and work involved to produce such images.” I find this statement most disturbing: If it is true, then a film director who creates movies in which people appear to die (and this would include every disaster movie ever shot!) commits a worse crime than someone who buys – and therefore creates a market for - “snuff” movies!

Speaking as a parent, I utterly deplore child abuse in all its forms, including the traffic of real child pornography and the irreparable damage this causes to the children involved. However, I cannot view the Tudor-Miles case as anything other than a policing of art and the imagination, and violation of an individual’s personal affairs. I accept that there may have been pragmatic reasons for imprisoning Mr. Tudor-Miles (who has committed genuine acts of child-abuse in the past) but the laws used to convict him could just as easily be applied to a private fantasist who posed no harm to anyone (except conceivably himself).

In my view this poses an insufferable threat to personal liberty and a slide towards totalitarianism.

Yours sincerely,

P.S. I am well aware that decisions made by courts of law are independent, and are no business of the executive or legislature. Nonetheless, the judiciary are constrained by laws proposed by the government and passed by consent of Parliament, who are ultimately responsible for creating this situation.

[gavin]

i couldnt believe my ears when i heard this on the news the other day. repulsive as his behaviour has been, this verdict is completely unjust.

the message is that he (and others) may as well deal with the real thing rather than the fantasy he created, and that prospect is extremely disturbing...

[Didge]

[byke95]

[TL666]

I couldn't give a flying f*ck as to how he was convicted. I think that its great that this sick little piece of sh*t is in jail.
I'd love to pull his arms and legs off like the insect he is.