Which (Reliable) Supermoto?

sub4sec · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Karma :

Hi there,

Since i`m looking for a new trackbike, and will sell my roadbike i`ll have some money left for a supermotard. I`m not 'in to' supermotards and as a result of that dont know which bike is suitable to my needs. Basically i`m looking for a realiable - not too expensive - sm. (I`ll probadly park it outside). I doesnt have to be a hardcore bike, but i like to have a some power (even if this means a bit more weight).

A friend of mine has a couple of husqevarna`s, but these are expensive and unreliable. I`m not looking for this kind off bikes, i really want it to be reliable and don`t want to spend to much on it. It has to deliver some fun off course. Any ideas on sm`s that suit my needs? Any input is welcome.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

MZ baghira street moto/mastiff is well put together, lots of powder coating, stainless and quality fittings. Cycle parts are top-notch, finish is good, lots of trick bits fitted as standard (marazocchi forks, WP shock, grimecha brakes).

The XTZ660 engine isn't as 'full on' as many but is enough to put a grin on your face as is the way of big thumpers. It is certainly well regarded in the reliability stakes.

That said, I did blow mine up, but as far as I know, I'm the only person to have achieved this. They sent the engine back to Germany to find out what the hell happened (primary failure of a conrod, taking most of the rest of the engine with it).

sub4sec · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Karma :

thx, there arent many MZ`s around here though. I`d like to buy the bike second hand. And i`d like a 4 stroke over 2 stroke as well, forgot to add that.

Any other bikes you recommend?
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Dischord · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 May 2005 Karma :

I think you'll have a tough time finding a factory built supermoto bike that meets your requirements. If it was me I would keep an eye out on ebay for offroaders that have already been converted, it's a popular thing these days so shouldn't be hard to find one. Look out for -

Honda XR400
Suzuki DR 350
Kawasaki KLR
Yamaha TTR / WR

all should be great fun and last forever really!
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

There are a few factory built ones now, but all still quite expensive.

Have you played with trail bikes generally?
I was quite suprised how much grip road biased tyre on my DR600s trail sized wheels had.

Only thing I'd want to sort really was the weak front brake in that case.

Generally with these bikes, you've got to have quite a lot more weight to get decent power from a more reliable bike. Ie something like the KLR650 could sit at about a ton, but was 160kg or so dry weight - which starts to beg the question what it offers you over a road bike.

You could always buy my track and road SV650s of me, then get some long forks for the road SV [/spam] Razz

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sub4sec · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Karma :

Honda XR400
Suzuki DR 350
Kawasaki KLR
Yamaha TTR / WR

Those are 2 strokes rigth? I think i`ll try to find a converted off road bike, prodably easier to find Smile

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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

I got the DR350 presently, good fun with some onroad biased trail style tyres on. Haven't had any problems, frequent oil changes and following the maintenance handbook = key. Only prob i have is that it is near lethal in the wet. Will hold a good 70 cruise at about 6500 rpm (9500 red line), with room to get to about 85+ should the need arise. Also if you are using frequently on the road then you may want the larger tank... Mine is 9 litres, and lasts about 80 miles.
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sub4sec · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Karma :

That`s a small tank, but it`ll be enough since i wont use is for commuting or something. 85 is enough for the things i want to do on it
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cagiva gezzer · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Karma :

Just having a poke on Ebay for something to spend cash on...

A Honda NX650 dominator is claimed to have put down 32bhp on the dyno. Considering that a DRZ 400 will do the same (or more) it should make you realise just how softly tuned the engines are.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

That honda supermoto is a travesty. Why they chose to put the dommy engine in a factory supermoto is totally beyond me.

Should have used the crf450. Less weight, more ponies.

mrtEE · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Karma :

get a suzuki engined CCM R30.