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Delvard
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 07 Jan 2006    Post subject: What Tools Should I have? Reply with quote

What are the essentials? Having passed my DAS in November and bought an 03 Fazer 600 I've gone and bought a Haynes Manual Mr. Green I think it's going to be just as much fun getting involved with the mechanics of the bike as riding it and I guess knowing what the engine is doing, how it works can only make you a better rider on the road.
The book does mention tools but I thought I'd ask The Workshop for tips, suggestions and any 'out there' ideas for making things easier, cheaper and hopefully better.




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PostPosted: 12:56 - 07 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

basics i recon

Arrow decent socket set
Arrow set of screwdrivers
Arrow set of allen keys

the rest buy as you need them
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 07 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big spanner to take the wheel nuts off. Plug socket (that fits your bike). Set of metric ring spanners.

My personal favourite: Nylon hammer Very Happy

The tools I use most are my 1/4" drive socket set, allen keys and my hammer.

A cheap multimeter is also handy to have (less than £5 these days), electrical faults always occur when it is dark, the shops are shut and you absolutely have to ride the bike the following morning.
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 07 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good 1/4" drive socket set (drive adapters are handy).
Allen keys.
Combination spanners, 8-24mm if you can find them.
Decent screwdrivers, large and small.
Plug spanners.
Torque wrench.


Those are what I use most (maybe not the torque wrench, but it takes experience to feel what a bolt is doing). A cheap socket set is okay until the 8 and 10mm sockets round off and you have to buy them again. Six point sockets are better than twelve point.

Other handy things I have include mole grips, funnels, containers for catching oil in, sawdust for when the containers leak, scalpels, long nose and ordinary pliers, brake bleeding kit, overalls + safety boots, inspection lamp, trolley jack + piles of bricks, soldering iron, spare fasteners, electrical connectors, steel wire brushes and brass wire brushes to clean spark plugs with, wire wool, sandpaper, carburettor cleaner, Gunk, WD40, 3 in 1 spray lube, Handy oil, lithium grease, Coppa Slip, 'persuading' tools (hammers and mallets large and small), Swarfega, and a great big metal vice securely mounted to a workbench, especially for hitting things in (see big hammers Smile ).

There are bound to be others, but you can get away with a few essentials to start off with.
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Delvard
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies fellas. I went to look at Halford Torque wrenches but they are £50 albeit with a lifetime guarantee. I had one before but have somehow lost it since our last house move. I think they are important. Anyone who says they're not requisite hasn't sheered a bolt on an intake manifold Mr. Green
I've seen some good deals on ebay but am not sure of the different makes but looking at the relatively 'light' application for a bike I guess I needn't be too pedantic.






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PostPosted: 11:18 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

4lb lump hammer and a pair of mole grips! Very Happy

oh.. and a bonking stick!

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Bonking Stick

My Bonking Stick used to be a BloodyGreatScrewdriver. Now it has transcended mere screwdriverness and has turned into the Swiss Army knife of the blunt instrument world. It can be used as a pry bar, a chisel and a small hammer. You can use it to stir paint, dig the garden and, if you must, as a screwdriver. It becomes a short sword in moments of intense imagination and can be used to educate children and small adults against the dangers of the workplace...hit them hard enough and often enough and the little buggers soon realise that the workshop is a dangerous place when you're waving your Bonking Stick about...

So, Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you The Bonking Stick. Not quite as cool as using a cordless drill to pretend you're Arnie, but a lot more adaptable to those little jobs where only brute force, ignorance and a large, blunt instrument will do.

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PostPosted: 11:26 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pair of paddock stands are also very useful, Thumbs Up Dan
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i say a hammer,, and a beer. normaly works for me when somthing goes wrong Mad ...

but really what all the other guys said Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres a post on here someplace by me that has "mechanical muppet" in the title, the post lists 2 books, buy em.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

got the thread title wrong, but found it:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=49611&highlight=
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use my torque wrench the most for my axle nut when tightening my chain Smile

good socket set, spanners, allen keys (stupid things that they are), screwdriver etc should do most jobs.

if you need to buy anything i have used these plenty and have always been good https://www.tooled-up.com Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gaffer tape, for what shouldn't move, but is. And WD40 for what should move, but isn't.....

err... like they said I spose. I like the Tengtool kits for good value. Oh, and I would not without my battery impact wrench... LOL Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevoriv wrote:
allen keys (stupid things that they are),


They beat the usual alternative of crosshead screws into a cocked hat though.
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trevoriv
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
trevoriv wrote:
allen keys (stupid things that they are),


They beat the usual alternative of crosshead screws into a cocked hat though.


think its just the cheap ones i have that just chew everything up and then u cant get any leverage on the bloody thing so out come the grips etc, nightmare Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

feef wrote:
oh.. and a bonking stick!
My Bonking Stick used to be a BloodyGreatScrewdriver. Now it has transcended mere screwdriverness and has turned into the Swiss Army knife of the blunt instrument world.

Yes! Every toolkit has one - That particularly sturdy bladed screwdriver that you bought years ago and use practically everytime you step foot in the garage.

I use my dad's. In the past couple ofmonths alone I can think of tons of different uses it performed whilst working on my project bike:
Cleaned rust and paint off the frame, used as a drift for bashing in forkseals, used to lever head off engine (needed two pinchbars to get the barrels off though Twisted Evil), used to decoke head, used as a drift to knock out seized gudgeon pins (untill I dented a piston slightly and switched to a punch Embarassed), used to clean years of crap and corrosion off engine, plus any number of minor random uses.

And as it's good quality, the blade is sharper than of many screwdrivers half its size. When I spent half an hour scraping the residue of a sticker off my tank, it was with that screwdriver that I did it, and without a single scratch either!


trevoriv wrote:
then u cant get any leverage on the bloody thing

Use a ring spanner.
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No-one mentioned torx head wrenches Wink Not sure if you need them on the fazer, but most new vehicles use them now.

I would avoid the like of halfords for tools. The quality has improved over days gone by, but they are still very overpriced for what you get.

Look in yellow pages under Motor Factors or Engineers Merchants. Thumbs Up Better tools at half the price of less.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 11 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about, cheap disposable gloves (200 for £1 at local pound shop), ideal for working on bike, parafin for cleaning chain.
Oil filter removal tool.

Hmm i've got above, plus socket set, set of spanners, various oils lubes, greases, axle stands, trolley jack, inspection light, rubber mallet, oil drain tub, allan keys, normal screw drivers, star screw set, multimeter, metal ruler (adjusting chain), battery charger, spare fuses bulbs, breaker bar, wire brushes, adjustable spanners,
digital air pressure gauge.

What I need is a torque wrench, my give it another turn mentality is sure to cause problems.

Being honest though, i'm no bike mechanic at all, i'm okayish with cars, absolutely crap with bikes, my tools were all for my car.

I can do simple things on bikes, like oil, chain, most things electrical
because of my job.

I'd love to go on a bike mechanic course, but none in my local area.
(evening course)
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