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befdelta7
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: fitting chain and sprocket kit UPDATE + *temp gauge question Reply with quote

hi people,

are there any tips for fitting a new chain and sprockets:

Arrow any easy ways of doing it?
Arrow any particular part needed to be fitted first?
Arrow any run in period?
Arrow any things to watch out for when fitting or when fitted and taking the bike out for the first time?

thanx for your info and replys Thumbs Up
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G
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Re: fitting a chain and sprocket kit Reply with quote

Make sure you have:

A tool to split the chain (either specific tool, angle grinder or similar).
A tool to take the front sprocket off - an air/electric impact wrench is nice, otherwise leave the old chain on, put something through the rear wheel and undo it from there - otherwise you will just turn the engine.
A tool to rivet the chain if it's a rivet type - some use just a mallet and block of metal. I prefer a 'proper' tool; make sure you have the right tool for the type of rivet.

Otherwise, it should all be good.
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befdelta7
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for that 'G'

iv got a split link on my chain now, like you get on old push bike and the chain im told il be reciving with the sprocket has a split link too.
is this ok, or should i be worried? its only a 125cc engine.

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Paddy Blake
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PostPosted: 01:30 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loosen the front sprocket first.
When you are putting the new chain on put the link into it and join it to
the upper side of the old chain and pull the bottom to get the chain to go
around the front sprocket.
Don't try to put a split link that has the clip on it in when.
In the dark or When the bike is parked in grass,Those clips can fly.
Count the links on your old chain before you start and make sure the new
chain has the same amount of links also be sure the split link you get is
the right one for the chain.
Put the new link into the new chain as if you were putting it together and
make sure it will all fit.

Paddy.
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G
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Split link is fine on a 125.
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befdelta7
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx for your replys boys!

im getting my chain and sprockets form rob sturgess at mitomondo.
iv herd quite a bit about him and his shop(good things of course) so i think i can trust him to supply the right bits for me.

one more question about the front sprocket:
is it a left hand thread or is it normal like any other nut/bolt?

one more question about the new chain:
will i have to grease it because its new or will it be already greased?

cheers for you help and replys Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chain will be lubed already. You will probably get a small pouch of lube for the final link.

Do what Paddy says, loosen the front sprocket first while the bike is on the ground.

When you have the rear wheel off, place 2 blocks down so the wheel rests on them but the disc doesnt touch the ground and get damaged. (blocks lined up either side of the disc).

Also when fitting the split link (very important) if you imagine it is U shaped then the bottom of the U needs to face the chains direction of travel. So assuming you are fitting it on the bottom run of the chain then the bottom of the U needs to be facing the rear sprocket so when it travels round it will be facing the front sprocket.

Check the manual to see what level of play is required once done and give it a kick before each ride to ensure tension remains.

It will make sense as you do it. A rewarding job.
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befdelta7
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you very much for that r1NSR

thank you all who replyed too!!

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PostPosted: 21:41 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, as said a splitlink will be fine on a 125. i recently changed the chain and sprockets on my rs, and it was quite easy! the only bitch was getting the splitlink together, but a bit of brute force with the vicegrips soon sorted that Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

yer when i took the engine out for a clean and inspection/slight rebuild getting the split like back together on the old chain was a C U Next Tuesday

hopefully this one all goes well Thumbs Up

cheers beatnck and everyone else who replyed Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 24 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

took the bike out just now and its horrible to ride now the diffrent sprockets are on it. probably because i need to get use to it Confused

now 13 tooth front -- 44 tooth rear.
was 15 tooth front -- 43 tooth rear

on the pull off it wheelies(not too bad but for the first time it was a bit of a Shocked ) and it flies through the gears like no ones buisness which is what i wanted but didnt think ill be changine that fast also gets to 50mph according to the speedo in about 4 seconds which isnt bad Smile

also

my temp gauge was reading at 47*C yesterday when i was riding it for about 40mins and on the 15min ride just now it didnt even move off 40*C (which is where the needle rests when the ignition is off) does anyone think this is a fault or is it the cold weather? bearing in mind that it was snowing earlier this morning and the right radiator as you sit on the bike was slightly warm when i got off the bike and the temp gauge was on the resting needle at 40*C(radiator that the coolant goes into from the cyclinder head)

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PostPosted: 19:21 - 24 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure the wire is attached on the front right of the cylinder head.

I used to (when i rode in the winter) blank off 2-4 inches of radiator to help keep it warm. The rads are far too big for winter riding.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 24 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Make sure the wire is attached on the front right of the cylinder head.

yer the wire is attached, it did a few months ago stop working. the pin that stickes out the temp sensor moved up and down, so when i pressed it down the gauge worked and when i left it, it didnt. so i glued it down and all was fine untill now.

do you rekon i should blank off part of my rad? if so what side(as you sit on the bike and top or bottom of the rad)

also cagiva gezzer what size sprockets are you running on your supercity? just out of intrest
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 24 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

14 / 41

£80 delivered for a full IRIS/Renthal/JT kit.

Tops out at an indicated 95MPH and pulls like THIS.

But it's a six speed box, so the internal ratios are different.

FYI

14 / 42 is the std gearing on the 6speed.
13 / 42 is the std gearing on the 7 speed. (i think)
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 24 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FYI
whats that mean?? Embarassed


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do you rekon i should blank off part of my rad? if so what side(as you sit on the bike and top or bottom of the rad)

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PostPosted: 21:27 - 24 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI is For Your Information, and it wont matter really what part of the rad you tape up just tape it up. done the same on my dt.
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 24 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A tool to take the front sprocket off

a socket, scaff pole and someone to stamp on the rear brake,
UNDO this before taking the chain off,

common sence and take your time.
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PostPosted: 01:54 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i undid the front sprocket with a socket and very very little force Shocked was like it was hand tight. did it up tight thoe and put some glue stuff you mix up over the split like to secure it and so's to put my mide at rest of it flying off Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 03:43 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Split link is fine on a 125.


split link is fine for any cc provided the chain is of the correct grade.

My oft warned of death due to split link on my GSXR1100 never came to pass. I picked the correct grade of heavy duty non o-ring chain, thus the split link is appropriately strong.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 14 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

bish777 wrote:
G wrote:
Split link is fine on a 125.


split link is fine for any cc provided the chain is of the correct grade.


That's what B&C Express told me. I've just ordered Renthal sprockets and then a Tsubaki X Ring Gold chain for my R6. Spoke with a guy there and he told me it comes with a split rivet link?

I think I might have trouble putting it on though, never done it before.
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