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| Steve - RS125 |
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 Steve - RS125 Spanner Monkey
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 Posted: 10:45 - 20 Jun 2006 Post subject: Tank Slapper - Please enlighten me as to what it is......... |
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Now call me silly / stupid or whatever one chooses to call me, but what is a tank slapper?
Now I am guessing its when I have bounced ones crown jewels of the tank going over a bump, braking excessivley hard into a corner and have ended up talking like joe pescualy for the next 2 weeks?
Please enlighten me as to what it is.
Thanks.
P.s - 2 weeks to my DAS test and then a further 1 hour until my 600cc comes from under the dust sheets!  ____________________ Suzuki VL Intruder 125cc - September 2004 to July 2005
Aprilia RS 125cc - July 2005 to Present
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 Posted: 11:20 - 20 Jun 2006 Post subject: Re: Tank Slapper - Please enlighten me as to what it is..... |
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| Steve - RS125 wrote: | Now call me silly / stupid or whatever one chooses to call me, but what is a tank slapper?
Now I am guessing its when I have bounced ones crown jewels of the tank going over a bump, braking excessivley hard into a corner and have ended up talking like joe pescualy for the next 2 weeks?
Please enlighten me as to what it is.
Thanks.
P.s - 2 weeks to my DAS test and then a further 1 hour until my 600cc comes from under the dust sheets!  |
I been looking at the same question, seen some freaky vids, do a forum search and there are a few topics on what they are, how they happen and what to do with them. |
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| Steve - RS125 |
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 Steve - RS125 Spanner Monkey
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Cheers folks!!
Now I know what they are I can say its never happend to me as yet!
Once again, cheers.  ____________________ Suzuki VL Intruder 125cc - September 2004 to July 2005
Aprilia RS 125cc - July 2005 to Present
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| NSR Mick |
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He has mistaken a wobble as a tankslapper. a tank slapper has the potential to break your thumbs as the bars will go from lock to lock. ____________________ If you dont like the way that I ride.......Stop trying to keep up!!! |
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 killa Won't Shut Up

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Having the bike set up wrong will give you some horrible tank slappers….
My TZR 125 (big bore) was mental, the bars were loose as anything and the suspension really needed looking at, not so much power slappers but it did wobble a lot.
The VFR is very hard to get a wobble with as the bike is setup almost perfectly, the Ninja however has scared me off a slip road to a motorway.
I must say though, in my experience you need to be really ragging a bike to get a wobble out of a corner, and if you get slappers from road surfaces, you should’ve known better. ____________________ Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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No way, you can't do that!!
I had one on my old KR1S at about 110mph that was so violent that both wheels left the floor, it bruised both of my inner thighs due to the ferocious way the whole thing slammed from side to side, it shattered the front mudguard into a hundred bits somehow and i didn't make the next corner due to having no brakes and had to take to a very scary run through a narrow gap in a hedge into a field at 60mph
Still biking though, but now i have a steering damper  ____________________ My Bikes in order:- Yamaha RXS100 / Suzuki X7 250 / Yamaha RD350LC / Kawasaki
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https://www.brucester.net/ftp/movies/tankslapper.wmv
That looks scary to say the least at full speed.
The guy with the yellow flag in the white coat thing was destined to get knocked down by the bike until the curb stopped the bike going in his direction lol
(apologies if the link doesnt work) ____________________ Other nations, the French, looked at a dining table and saw an opportunity to have dinner. We looked at a dining table and saw an opportunity to play wiff waff! - Boris Johnson
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that site is REALLY good for other info :O found this section really helpful and interesting
https://www.joe250.com/motorcycles/ride/firstbike.htm ____________________ Proud owner of a Honda CG 2005 model with 1005 Miles on the clock - Bought on 19/12/2005  |
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I made a thread a few weeks ago about my encounter
168mph and bike went into a tank slapper after hitting drainage lines.
gave me serious bruising in my arms from trying my best to stop it, lasted around 15 seconds.
worst thing thats ever happened to me in 12 years of riding  ____________________ Turbo R1
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It can happen to an RS and at 100mph, you're f*cked if you get one on an rs125 because you can't power out of it.
It happens because the front tyre hits something and becomes destabilised to one side, and it starts going left to right and back again. If you brake, more weight gets loaded onto the front and it'll normally get worse. I haven't had one, and to be honest the thought of having one at 95mph on a 125 puts me off using the full potential of my bike.
I think i'm just worried because the mito comes with a damper, but my planet doesn't...
Jack ____________________ www.bikepics.com/members/jackcheese <--- NOW FOR SALE! 51 Plate Cagiva Planet 125
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Hi
Tank slapper is normally where the forks whack between the lock stops at the natural resonant frequency, so it keeps doing it. Quite capable of throwing you off the bike and very different from a bit of a wobble of a quick slap lock to lock.
No reason that something with the performance of an RS125 wouldn't manage a tank slapper. KH250 (late 70s design of 2 stroke 250) would be about the same performance and they would happily go into a tank slapper.
Normal recommended way out of it is to accelerate out of it. Braking would have much the same effect (in that if would affect the resonance), except that it would transfer weight onto the rather wayward front. Not what you really want to do.
All the best
Keith ____________________ Traxpics, track day and racing photographs - Bimota Forum - Bike performance / thrust graphs for choosing gearing |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 19 years, 215 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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