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[Visitor Q]

As bendy and co may remember i was on IRC asking about the washer on my sump plug.

Any way, got my 30 quids worth of oil, got another crush washer.

Set about undoing it, thought fuck is it tight... Only bloody doing it the wrong way. Well and truly threaded it.

Its in, its tight ish. But its dripping slowly

So thats gonna be drain and helicoil at least before i get confident its not going to drop out on me at 100+ and cause a lovely highside.

Joy.

But on the plus a copper did let me off a wheeleying undertake earlier (thats a different story) so i think thats just karma biting me up the arse well and truly.



Never mind.

Anyway what can anyone suggest for fixing it? Any cheaper alternatives? Its a 96 cbr 600. And yes i am a complete muppet.
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[instigator]

Hmm, I done this with my first bike. Tightened it too much and the whole surround just crumbled

I just handed it to a mechanic to be honest, I didn't have a clue how to fix it.

[Adam_P]

Yeah...

Read the manual, properly, before starting anything mechanical!


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[Visitor Q]

[instigator]

£200. But a service was included in that price. Mind you, it was a 125cc bike but I imagine my problem was a little more severe in that the base plate had cracked right along the bottom and chunks came out of the threaded hole.

He just seemed to patch it up via welding (could be wrong) and told me that from now on I could empty the oil out a different way. I sold the bike before I needed to change the oil lol.

[Adam_P]

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Remember : Lefty loosey, Righty tighty

Seriously, I may feel like an idiot saying that in my head, but I haven't cross threaded anything so far....

[Visitor Q]

Thanks for the help guys...

It is seriously pissing out oil tho, even when cold. I might try it without the washer or something. Just empty oil into bowl and refill up.

Sucks arse though.

And sv... yeh i am calmer. Ish. I dunno, i just cant help but be a twat. Im really trying.

As for numpty ish, i was still panicy from the cop incident. And the plug is upside down which confused the hell out of me. I stopped about 4 times to have a think if it was the right way.

Oooooh woe is me
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[stinkwheel]

For future reference, use a ratchet socket to take the sump plug out. Set the ratchet to turn anticlockwise before you dive in.

You can sometimes just redrill and tap the hole to take a bigger bolt rather then having to helicoil it.
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[Phoenix]

Just turn your head to look at the bolt as if it's a normal one, then you can figure out which way it undoes. Don't just put a new washer on and hope it seals, it won't. You'll have to take the sump off and have it rethreaded or replaced, depends if you've cracked the sump around the bolt hole. It's not a hugely difficult job, can't imagine it's that hard to find a CBR600 sump.

Oh and another note on doing sump nuts up, I never use a torque wrench, I do it up good and tight using a normal ratchet. A lot of wrenches work over such a range they're quite innacurate and I know of 2 ppl that have used them on their sump nut, waited for the click only to hear the sump crack before the wrench does. I do this for all important nuts and have yet to have one fall off on me, when it does I'll alter my suggestion.

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[Visitor Q]

ok, according to the only garage i trust... 220-250 ish







All i can think of is me doing the work to take it all apart?

Need to take off fairings (that i can do), take off exhaust (should be ok at doing that, take off rad (erm... right), take off oil pan (also erm....), get helicoiled £30 at most, then put it all back together ( )

Anyone fancy my chances?

Fucking

Might work out cheaper to buy a cheaparse sump from a breakers?

But about 200 quid of the cost is the labour, so looks like the cbr could be in bits for a long time at this rate...

Also, anyone know a way of phrasing this to get it on warranty?

i was thinking 'I went to do an oil change and found the bastard was threaded, which you should have found when you did you last service unless you didnt change the oil?'
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[Bendy]

You could just about get a whole new engine for that money.

[Visitor Q]

Yes i know, but id have no clue how to drop and replace it. Haynes is fooking useless.

Need to find out which part specifically the sump plug attaches too, and replace that. Shouldnt take that long, ill probs try it in situ too.
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[bish777]

Where are you ricardo?

If your near me ill come and help.

Assuming the plug still screws in tight but is leaking, you can temporarily fix it as a BODGE (and you must get this repaired properly asap! Im warning you!) by doing the following.

Youll need to get some 'Repair Metal'

https://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=11988

Drain the oil and leave it do drain completely. once its all out clean up the threads and remove all oil, swarf and crap from them. Do the same to the sump plug.

Mix up the repair metal, and smear a thick layer over the threads of the sump plug, then carefully screw it in.

Leave it for an hour or so and it should be ready to fill with oil and run. Put cheepo car oil in for the time being as its likely youll only have the oil in for a short time till you get it fixed properly.
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[Phoenix]

£200 labour is a joke, you need to pick which garage you trust more carefully.

[Kickstart]

Hi

David Silver spares have a complete engine brand new for a 1995 CBR600 FS for £695 (German spec, 98PS). They also have a 1989 spec 50PS restricted engine for £600!

Think yours is the FM-FR model (not sure) and if so they have a replacement "Oil Pan" for £59 (and another £7 for the gasket). This should be fairly easy to fit yourself, although it can be a time consuming job (they tend to be held on with a load of small bolts).

The cheapest way to do the job would be to drop the sump off yourself and take it in to get helicoiled. This should be fairly easy to get done at stripping the sump plug is a fairly common problem (did it to the car last time I changed the oil ).

All the best

Keith
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[stinkwheel]

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[Key67]

Have you looked in Yellow Pages under Engine Reconditioners or Engineers? Many of them will come out and fit helicoils on site. If the first one you ring doesn't do it, I bet they know someone who does.

Worked in a fleet repair shop for many years and I can tell you fitting a helicoil is a doddle, seen it done many times on car sumps in situ.

Got to be worth a try and shouldn't be anywhere near £200.

Good luck!

Key
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[Dr Nick]

New crankcase, i happen to have a 97 cbr600 lump for sale .

Could tap a new thread possibly?
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[G]

I did a similar thing to the ZX6.

It wasn't too much hassle to sort.

Take all fairings off, take exhaust headers off (getting them on again was probably the most hassle).

Helicoil it (about £20 for the kit, remember you need a tap holder).

Stick everything back on again.

[Visitor Q]

[G]

Helicoil was pretty easy to get straight.

Have you tapped holes with normal holes before?

For £35 I would just go for that... the helicoil kit is over £20 in the first place.

You might even get some money for the old one .

[Visitor Q]