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mrchips
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 22 Mar 2005    Post subject: Yamaha Diversion 600 Reply with quote

What are they like? I've seen a few in the auto trader that might be worth looking into. Do they handle well/reliablity/insurance/power any info appreciated cheers
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 22 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

whitenoise has got one.

I've got a pre diversion XJ600. It handles very well, mine's still restricted but out cornered several gixxer 400s and a couple of gixxer 600s.

But then I was again outcornered by an RS125.

I think they're great first bikes. It got no bad comments on a big rideout I went on, and most of the bikes were sport 600s.

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PostPosted: 23:29 - 22 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Had one for a year.

BRakes are OK, but not great.

Riding position is comfy

Petrol tank is not that big

Handling is pleasant, but don't expect sports bike handling

Power delivery is boring

Works brilliantly on the motorway.

I sold it and bought the FZR600. The FZR is faster, handles better, does more mpg, has better brakes, has a bigger petrol tank and is less comfy. For me that FZR is better.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:34 - 22 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now the priority is to get something at 18 with 2 years NCB in Northern Ireland that won't get me totally laughed at by insurance companies, as I'm getting laughed at for a Bros 400 at 17. Roll on July.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 22 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed on the boring power delivery, even though I'm still restricted.

I find the brakes good for a 15 year old bike, although you're looking at a newer model.

I think the handling's good aswell, although admittedly I have little to compare it to.

The petrol tank on mine is 20 (litres?) I forget the unit it was measured in, but whatever it was, it was 20 of them! (I think)

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PostPosted: 01:56 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do everything they are supposed to do in a relaxed and unsurprising way.

I would imagine it would make a good first bike, I found them to be extremely uninspiring to ride, no sense of urgency when you open it up, no character. Thrashing them is totally unrewarding. The basic model vauxhaull vectra of the bike world.

The pre-Diversion XJ600s were better bikes IMO.
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PostPosted: 02:32 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The old man had one for a year or so.
It went fairly well, even with 2 on it. Stopped pretty good too.

Corners however were a nightmare. It refused to commit to a corner, you had to keep turning it in again taking little bites out of the corner.

His might just have been fucked though Laughing

As a commuter bike the diversion is beaten only by the CB500 Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't comment on the 6 or the 9...but I've got the XJ900 pre-diversion and it's such a lovely bike to both thrash and relax on. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just passed my DAS two months ago and I decided to buy one as my first bike.

An R-plate 1998 Diversion with 9K on the clock and it's mint.

OK, I've got nothing to compare it to as it's my first bike and I've only been riding for six months anyway, but I bought it because of their reputation of bullet proof reliability and cheap running costs. Look how many couriers use them (although in most cases they'll choose the 900 for the shaft drive).

I find it very smooth, comfortable, and weighted very well to give it a good balance.

I'm still getting to know the bike so I don't know it's limits. The only negative I've found, is the vibration you get at 4000 revs, but you get used to it (apparently it's common on them all).

I love it!
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not buy a 6oo Bandit. They're similar in power but look better. They are more reliable and I think parts are cheaper too.
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL666 wrote:
Why not buy a 6oo Bandit. They're similar in power but look better. They are more reliable and I think parts are cheaper too.

The insurance difference is probably very significant.
I'm driving a 17 year old XJ900 and I'm 21. The insurance last year for the XJ900 and a GP100 was about £400 though if I was on a 900 Divvy you could probably times that by about 3.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The insurance difference is £40 for bikes of the same age and value. Thats with choicequote. Hardly significant.
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL666 wrote:
Why not buy a 6oo Bandit. They're similar in power but look better. They are more reliable and I think parts are cheaper too.


The Divvy is better made with a far better fairing (as far as wind protection). The Bandit is quite a bit more powerful. The Divvy should be cheaper to service (8 valve rather than 16, less frequent oil changes, shimmed valves so they will rarely need touching, no suspension linkage so what is there is easier to grease). The Divvy is a very easy bike to work on.

Not sure about spare parts prices, but Yamaha spares I have normally found to be quite cheap.

Biggest problem with the Diversion is the rubbish vacuum fuel pump fitted to the early version. This is so pathetic that it struggles to push enough fuel into the carbs before the battery dies is you do not get onto reserve in time.

The Divvy, as a bike, works very well for long journies on the motorway. Comfy, good fairing, adequate power to sit at 90 all day, reasonable fuel range, etc. Just no fun on roads where you are accelerating and braking a fair bit.

All the best

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PostPosted: 17:54 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is your first big bike it will be a good choice. The later model with twin front disks is better. The excelleration is better than the riding school types such as CB500, GS500 and ER500 due to the extra 100cc and four cylinder engine.

Top end is somewhere between 115 and 120mph. It is not as powerful as the Fazer or Bandit and that is reflected in the insurance costs.

The seat and riding position is very comfy and touring is no hassle.

I had the unfaired XJ600N as my first big bike and I was never disappointed with the performance.

Negative points:

The brakes will seize up if you ride in the winter. (Not an uncommon problem on Yamahas)
Cleaning after wet riding needs a degree of dedication.


Conclusion:

A very decent post-test ride which is reliable and cheap to buy and maintain. Most negative comments about lack of oomph come from people accustomed to sportier bikes. Always remember though this is not a sportsbike and ride accordingly. I would recommend it.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might just go for a GPZ500 then as they have a bit of a kick in the power at 7k.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I realise I have little to compare it to, but I find my XJ600 incredible amounts of fun.

It has twin disks up front and stops very well.

There is a kick in power at 5k, and starts tailing off at about 9k, if you can get one cheap, then go for it! especially as a first bike.

Cheap to insure aswell, mine was just shy of £600 with 0NCB at 18.

I think if you got one you wouldn't be disappointed, it seems uncharacteristic to rag this type of bike around, and it turns heads when you do.

But when you get it going, it goes well.

I realise Stinkwheel and Keith have far more experience than I do. But I've ridden my bike every day since I got it, and you really get to know it. Obviously I yearn to take the restrictors out and maybe get something sportier.

I agree the diversion offers better wind protection too.

Go with the pre-diversion!

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PostPosted: 19:53 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,
i do indeed have a divvy 600 its an N reg and i really like it, its my first bike after doing DAS and it really is something that does what it says on the box! it gets you to A->B in a pretty conservitive way, but saying that i have got her to 120 but my riding is not ready for those speeds as i have only been riding 7 weeks! its a simple bike mechanically so i am really learning maintainance on it, aswell as riding! though now i am looking to get a sports bike soonish but i think that money will not stretch till next yeah. Sad
Though i think that is inspired by the fact i rode my first sports bike (busa) at the weekend! Twisted Evil
They are cheap to insure i got mine for £275 TPFT and 0 NCB and short time riding ie 2 days!!!
At the end of the day its upto you what/need!
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
though now i am looking to get a sports bike soonish but i think that money will not stretch till next yeah.
Though i think that is inspired by the fact i rode my first sports bike (busa) at the weekend!


Very Happy I was wondering if it would tempt you a little bit
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrchips wrote:
Might just go for a GPZ500 then as they have a bit of a kick in the power at 7k.


In my oppinion, the GPZ500s is both faster and handles better than a divvy. I didn't like to say since a divvy is a perfectly good motorcycle. A GPZ will give you a sensible commuter bike with easy going power delivery ideal for a new rider that you can take out at the weekend and rag the arse off it.

I never saw any point in thrashing a divvy as it doesn't really achieve anything, seldom got near the redline as if you are there, you may as well have changed gear 4,000 revs ago. You thrash a gpz, you reap the rewards in a burst of hard acceleration and induction roar.

Divvy 600= Commuter.
GPZ500 = Sports Commuter.

Go sit on them, see which you prefer. There isn't really all that much difference in power, top-speed or fuel economy, not where it matters anyway. The GPZ just delivers that power in a more exciting way.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, the GPZ is a nice alternative, and Stinkwheel is perfectly on the mark with the redline quote, if you're in the red line the power gain from being so far up the rev range is minimal, although I find mine does sound bloody good.

Having seen the pics from Craggles' track day on his GPZ, it both looks good and it looks like it bloody shifts aswell.

I'll have to take some pics, I don't think yamaha ever designed my bike to be ridden how I ride it.

Either way, you certainly wouldn't go wrong with either for a first bike.

Gaz
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest i think if i had the choice again, i would go for the GPZ as it has a more sporter feel about it. but at the time i was desperate for a bike and all i wanted to do was ride!
Still it keeps me smiling plus i have a 180 mile ride tommorow so i am glad its comfortable! Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 23 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
I realise I have little to compare it to, but I find my XJ600 incredible amounts of fun.


In performance there is quite a lot of difference between the old XJ600 and the Diversion. The older bike is quite a bit more powerful and faster.

The Divvy is quite a bit better finished.

All the best

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PostPosted: 01:23 - 24 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
In performance there is quite a lot of difference between the old XJ600 and the Diversion. The older bike is quite a bit more powerful and faster.

The Divvy is quite a bit better finished.

All the best

Keith


You forgot to start your post with "Hi," Shocked Wink

or do you only do that on the first post on a thread?

Not that it matters.
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PostPosted: 03:26 - 30 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone else feel like their legs/ knees don't quite fit into the tank cutouts? It might have been that I wasn't forward enough but I really didn't feel as though I fitted on the XJ600 I sat on today. It does look like its tank is too small for its fairing though.

I fit perfectly onto the GS500 and almost so onto the GPz however.

Still, none of those felt as nice as the ZZR600, and nothing I've sat on is as nice as the F650.. Laughing
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PostPosted: 04:09 - 30 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
You forgot to start your post with "Hi," Shocked Wink

or do you only do that on the first post on a thread?

Not that it matters.


Odd that, i allways thought he had a macro to add that kind of stuff in for him Wink Laughing
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