?3000 for nsr125 2001 import or not is the question

hopoff · Guest

i have been quoted £3000 for a new nsr125 but it is a 2001 model. i was wondering if you think this would be a uk model??? cause my dealer says there very hard to derestrict and won't do more that 95mph without a race pipe.
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hopoffbaby · Spanner Monkey Joined: 16 Mar 2002 Karma :

that was me by the way

McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

It could well be a UK model, they often sell last years models at reduced prices.
Ask the dealer - he will have to tell you one way or the other.
As for deristriccting - check the guide on nsr125.com - its not that hard.
Derestricted, it should do about 100.
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Viper · Get off my bloody bike! Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

But why would they sell a new 2001 model at a reduced price, because it is EXACTLY the same as the 2002? Confused

(well, maybe apart form the year of the registration plate)

[ And if it is 'new' then why did they register it in 2001 - i thought dealers only registered new bikes when they have confirmed a buyer!!]

Anyway...
For a dealer that seems a heck of alot of £££ to 'give-away'.
And I dont think dealers are that nice! May guess is that it is an import. With most new import prices being about £3000-£3100, it would make sense.

Derestriction isnt that difficult to do (with the help of the wonderful www.nsr125.com) but if it is an import, the top speed in reality is only 85mph.
Go back to this dealer and have a look to see it the clocks are in km. Then its an import.

My other bit of advise is...never listen to anything a dealer tells you. The majority dont know s**t!!

Goodluck in your search mate! 8)

Scooby · Scrappy Doo Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Karma :

I think it will be a UK bike....some bikes are registered before they are sold and this one just might have not got sold. Seeing as the NSR is unchanged for 2002 I take it this bike has a plate on it, otherwise you would not know it is from 2001. So it will be a knockdown price as it is last years plate, which in theory makes sod all difference but think about it. 2 identical bikes, one registered 2001 one registered 2002, the 2001 not ridden till the 2002 bike was. It comes to selling up time. Both bikes 3000 miles, FHSH, exactly the same.....one is a Y plate, one a 51 plate.....if they cost the same which one you gonna buy..........

Your best bet is to ask if it is a UK bike or an import, they can't lie to you.
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Viper · Get off my bloody bike! Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

I'm still not convinced... Confused

...i have a very suspicious mind, and do not like dealers.

My money is on it being an import.
Why would they knock off 20% of the bikes value, when - as in reality bike age is irrelevant, its the milaege that counts! Confused

TiN · Pocket Tin Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Karma :

I think that it's an import too...dealers wouldn't usually register their bikes until they have been bought...unless the changed their minds of course...?

And there isn't such as thing as a 2002 model anyway...

Check the plate (if it has one) and also the mileage/speedo...

Tin

McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

Dealers often pre register bikes to get their figures for the year up, then sell them at reduced prices. They make up the difference in bonusses and shit from manufacturers.
Just ask tho, and checking the clocks is a good suggestion.
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Kris · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

I'm with Viper on this one:

1: sounds a bit 'cheap',
2: don't trust dealers

I think it may be an import. Sorry matey Rolling Eyes

Scooby · Scrappy Doo Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Karma :

why are we all saying i think it might be this i think it may be that......hopofbaby get down there and ask the dealer and look at the clocks!!
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TiN · Pocket Tin Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Karma :

Exactly Scooby!

...you should not be afraid to ask straight out "is this an import?"...if he lies to you then he'd be in the shit...

ask for the chassis and engine number (the dealer shouldn't have a problem in giving them to you), and phone up Honda and see what they tell you...

it may all seem like a lot of hassle, but you're gonna be spending £3k on this thing, a few questions and phone calls will help you in the long run...

Tin

McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

Tine spot on, dont forget, a dealer doesnt have to tell you anything unless you ask him.
Take someone wiht you and get things confirmed in writing then if there is any trouble the you have backup.
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hopoffbaby · Spanner Monkey Joined: 16 Mar 2002 Karma :

i havent had time to go back to matlock to ask the dealer. howerver the price sheet says at the bottom that all bikes are uk spec and full power, with MPH clocks this makes me wonder if they have changed the clocks cuz they also sel an rs125 for £3000 as well! when i talked to the technition he said that they are very hard to derestrict. by looking at the guide on how to derestrict the look very simple. now this again makes me wonder if he is saying they are hard to derestrict because it need the cdi replacing?

scabzilla · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 31 Mar 2002 Karma :

Well in my opinion if they are selling the RS125 at 3k they gota be imports right Rolling Eyes

? cause thats about the price they charge for an import RS125. And be careful i looked into buying a replacement CDI unit, near £450 !!!!

McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

If they say its a UK bike then its a UK bike. Which dealer is it??

Give them a call and ask them, and if in doubt get the frame no and call honda - theyll tell you definately.
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Scooby · Scrappy Doo Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Karma :

McJamWeasel, read what he put carefully they are not UK bikes.....they are UK Spec bikes. So basically they are imports with UK regulation headlights, and MPH clocks.

As for whether to buy it.....its upto you. Will you be happy with 85mph, or do you want 100mph???

I think if you find a breakers you may be able to buy a UK Cdi unit and swap it for your import Cdi unit, which should be a damn sight cheaper than £450, however there maybe other restrictions in place.
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hopoffbaby · Spanner Monkey Joined: 16 Mar 2002 Karma :

i cant be doing with all that hassel. i want a uk bike. whats a good price to pay for one and a place where i can get one not far from nottingham?

Scooby · Scrappy Doo Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Karma :

Are you good at doing bikes up...if so I suggest you look at HBC auctions in Bilsthorpe....pick up a cheap one ad do it up. That's what I did. If not, ust buy Admag, and the Evening Post also look on biketrader, and you should pick one up before long. How much you willing to spend??? Something in the region of £2200 will get you a good V reg.
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McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

Speak to the dealer. If you ask him straight out wether its an import or not he wil tell you.
It'd be stupid to cost yourself a few hundred quid for the sake of a fone call...

As for in your area, speak to your local dealers.
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TiN · Pocket Tin Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Karma :

Actually, 2001 UK RS125s (Aprilias) have dropped to £2999, 'cos of the new 2002 spec machines...they are officially "old stock", and are sold off fairly cheaply...Mitos have also officially gone down in price...

Tin

Scooby · Scrappy Doo Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Karma :

I'll believe it when I see it...
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hopoffbaby · Spanner Monkey Joined: 16 Mar 2002 Karma :

i finaly called them and yes it is an import!
i have aprox £3200 to spend and would like a new uk nsr125!
does anyone know where i can get one near notts for that money?