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rande
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Banned for voicing concern Reply with quote

It seems I've been banned from the Scotland section,because I took someone to task over the fact they seemed to think it was great to be pulling 110mph wheelies in a 60 zone...wtf Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speedings not big and is certainly isnt clever, but I do it every single day, I have been lucky that I've never been caught.

The arguement has ben here before:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=82013&highlight=speeding+cool

Bit harsh to be 'banned' for having an opinion unless it was a personal flame Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
Bit harsh to be 'banned' for having an opinion unless it was a personal flame Rolling Eyes


Or if it was aimed at the moderator of that section Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
Bit harsh to be 'banned' for having an opinion unless it was a personal flame Rolling Eyes


No, I could go and find you the 20 or so flames he's made towards otehr members of the scottish section but to be honest, I couldn't give a sh*t if he's a member or not. Razz

But don't go crying out for sympathy you big girl, you know fine well that wasn't the only reason.
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, I could go and find you the 20 or so flames he's made towards otehr members of the scottish section but to be honest, I couldn't give a sh*t if he's a member or not.

Or if it was aimed at the moderator of that section Laughing


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PostPosted: 22:50 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

rande I have been in the Scotland section a few months now and every time you post (which isnt often) you insult someone.

What did you think was going to happen?
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So me saying he was a fucking hero for boasting about doing 110mph wheelies in a 60 zone was a personnal flame....well in that case...fair enough...guilty as charged Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i wondered how long it would last?
looks like BCF is starting to go the way of other forums, lets see
in the last 3 weeks what has happened to the forum to start to make me think its on its way downhill
1. a post was made about a certain Mod on here and in the replies was a loosy hidden threat that if you voice your opinion against a mod you are going to get banned.
seems that the freedom to put a view over is getting less and less.
2 locked sections in E&M . so now freedom of speech has been taken away from members again, like members arnt old enough to give a reply (flame or not) and expect one back.
3 yet again it seems being banned for speaking out instead of debating the point is becoming the easy answer.

I wonder how much longer before more of the freedom that made BCF in my time here great will slowly be taken away without people noticing?
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a few locked sections not Nazi Germany. Confused
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

daz|n00by wrote:
1. a post was made about a certain Mod on here and in the replies was a loosy hidden threat that if you voice your opinion against a mod you are going to get banned.
seems that the freedom to put a view over is getting less and less.
2 locked sections in E&M . so now freedom of speech has been taken away from members again, like members arnt old enough to give a reply (flame or not) and expect one back.
3 yet again it seems being banned for speaking out instead of debating the point is becoming the easy answer.


Daz, you're talking mince mate.

Locked sections, you know fine well that they can use the old "freedom of speech" act by starting a topic in random banter. Complaints were made and I raised the issue and it was dealt with, the majority of which seem happy with. Go look up Mr tatoo's threads, go seee how his previous threads have been destroyed. Trouble is, if one person speaks out about the value of the bike and it's overpriced, no matter how he/she comes back with a comment, others will agree and want it cheaper. Hence destroying the chance of a sale.

Point 3 - You don't know a thing about what rande has said and nor have you made any attempt to udnerstand the situation. Rande has several times been abusive to a couple of our scottish members. If it was in a normal section, he'd have been booted via bad karma. But with the fact that there isn't so many users in the scottish section, we can jsut pap him out instead. He serves no purpose other than to bitch and nit pick...
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

phantomtek wrote:
It's a few locked sections not Nazi Germany. Confused


Yes i agree and it has never been done or needed to be done on here so how long before other things happen that didnt need doing before?

How long before your not allowed to say i disagree with a long standing member or a *cough* friend of a friend before being banned?

I really hope BCF doesn't go this way as it was a truly good forum for the fact members wasn't treated like kids and people could speak out their true feeling without the worry of repercussions
but once the seed has been planted how long before the tree takes a hold and spreads?
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator wrote:
He serves no purpose other than to bitch and nit pick...

So the previous poster is right then,if they don't like what people are saying or being slightly contraversial,they get binned...mmm...nice Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Point 3 - You don't know a thing about what rande has said and nor have you made any attempt to udnerstand the situation. Rande has several times been abusive to a couple of our scottish members. If it was in a normal section, he'd have been booted via bad karma. But with the fact that there isn't so many users in the scottish section, we can jsut pap him out instead. He serves no purpose other than to bitch and nit pick...


I have seen and you have seen certain members on here who have said some awful things and it has taken months of karma bashing to get them removed , names escape me for the moment apart from one member who has had and still has the balls to talk out to others the way he wants, he hasn't been banned others wasn't banned for some of the most foul and abusive insults i have ever seen on a forum yet now all of a sudden we see people being threatened in a sneaky way and getting banned immediately.

Were was all the mods when my family was being threatened by rasict insults ? were was the help when he was trying to find out when i was at home and when i was out so he could come round to were i live? were was the help when i reported it to the mods?

my reply to the report was in a nubmer of words was "what do you want me to do about it"
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ rande

sorry m8 but my reply isn't about siding with you,
i don't know you i have never spoken to you and i have never seen one of your abusive posts,
but i do know that the reason BCF is changing is because of people who don't put over a reasonable argument with a valid point,
if your posts are like this then you are part of the problem if they are not like this then maybe a different action should have been sought before being banned.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

rande you didn't even read the post, let me explain,
rande wrote:
think it was great to be pulling 110mph wheelies

He never "pulled it," he hit a bump and the front came off the ground
rande wrote:
So me saying he was a fucking hero for boasting about doing 110mph wheelies

He wasn't boasting, he nearly shit himself Wink
rande wrote:
What if a small child was crossing the road

This is a valid point, as we all know, in Scotland, children live in fields miles from the nearest town and sit in the road eating roadkill. Neutral
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

daz|n00by wrote:
I have seen and you have seen certain members on here who have said some awful things and it has taken months of karma bashing to get them removed , names escape me for the moment apart from one member who has had and still has the balls to talk out to others the way he wants, he hasn't been banned others wasn't banned for some of the most foul and abusive insults i have ever seen on a forum yet now all of a sudden we see people being threatened in a sneaky way and getting banned immediately.

Were was all the mods when my family was being threatened by rasict insults ?


Yes ^^ That was out of order, I was disgusted by what was said /suggested on that and forever will be.

Guess your problem is with the moderators. Thing is, acidburnz is moderator of the scottish forum ONLY, he has no "jurustiction" on the main forum so is that as "bad"? Since he only has a small area to look at?

Really though, trust me...Rande knows it too....He's been asking to get booted for a good while. Join the scottish section and check his previous posts (if they still exist Smile)
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You forgot to mention how happy he was when he said he held it there for a short while, Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The regional sections are the best thing about bcf, keep annoying people out.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

rande wrote:
You forgot to mention how happy he was when he said he held it there for a short while, Rolling Eyes


And that he went back to do it again... who wouldn't? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

HermanTheSheep wrote:
rande wrote:
You forgot to mention how happy he was when he said he held it there for a short while, Rolling Eyes


And that he went back to do it again... who wouldn't? Very Happy


So,I was right then,that makes it OK Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

wave2k wrote:
The regional sections are the best thing about bcf, keep annoying people out.


Heh heh, you managed to keep Mcgee out of the SE section then?

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PostPosted: 23:37 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Guess your problem is with the moderators.


Not really m8 i tend to live and let live with some things, i don't hold the mods responsible fully as i said the forum at the time was about people giving as good as the get.
In fact i enjoy some of the debates with G even though i don't understand half of what he says back to me Wink
Maybe i just don't like change(after all i am a bit stuck in my ways now i,m on the wrong side of life) Crying or Very sad

I just don't want to see BCF go the same way as other forums and start banning because somebody has a voice or somebody says something against a mod, and locking of posts IMO is a bad idea just because it has taken away that small amount of freedom that was so refreshing to see on a forum
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

rande wrote:
You forgot to mention how happy he was when he said he held it there for a short while, Rolling Eyes


You were young once...jsut once....way back then...come on gramps, you remember, back on your BSA Bantham. Razz
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator wrote:
rande wrote:
You forgot to mention how happy he was when he said he held it there for a short while, Rolling Eyes


You were young once...jsut once....way back then...come on gramps, you remember, back on your BSA Bantham. Razz


I was pulling wheelies tonight on my gixxer thou K6 boy,and maybe one day when you grow up,you too might be able to do them Wink
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, hey hey...hey...

There's got to be at least 1.5cm of air there gramps. Mr. Green

Cool .............. Laughing

You didn't say for how long. Razz Or how high...
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