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Hooky
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 03 Jul 2006    Post subject: A Japanese classic ? Your thoughts ? Reply with quote

Bere with me on this one. the pc is playing up so it will take time to get this post up Embarassed
Just bought this !
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9806&item=4647496873
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I have built loads of bikes, usually odd and unusual old things but this old girl caught my eye

Research shows that there are only 57 of thes still on the road in the uk (out of 470 orginally registered)

Its a bit of strange old girl, never that popular due to cam wear issues on this model (this ones fine) making it a poor seller.
This was in direct competition with the Kawasaki gpz 900r, (better in every way
Laughing )

The best thing about these is the superb v4 motor, bags of torque and around 115 bhp.

They even raced them Laughing one came 2nd at the TT in the proddie class.

I really dont care about profit, or loss, it is just a bit of of hobbie
restoring bikes but I really think this one might be a keeper.

She is 99% original,very low milage and athough bits are peppered with spot of rust this one is in brilliant condition.

Now then . Old Hondas are starting to become rather collectable, look at old superdreams, cb 750s, 400/4s etc, they are getting very
difficult to find in original condition.

Original condition it the key to any classic machine but im really not sure if this will be classed as a classic for another 20 years or so

Rolling Eyes .

If anyone out there has some some helpfull thought on these bikes let me know,.

I will bump this thread up over a long time with pics of the restoration, i recon on a year or so due to the fact that i still have two bikes in the que to finish first Crying or Very sad
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Paul@125power
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PostPosted: 03:54 - 04 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A guy I know that goes to the club were I work has one of those.
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 06 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

great bike man!!!!

sure u can enjoy a great ride.... Wink
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 06 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a guy with a VF400 looks pretty much the same, complex weird engine Shocked
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe the prices for these bikes. Buying a nice used bike in Canada is quite a bit more of an investment Razz. You have to spend at least $3,000 (1,455 GBP) for something good, despite the age. I've had my eyes peeled for awhile and most examples are still a bit outside of my price range while I save up. I might just have to wait until next spring to pick something up considering the limited biking season.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 09 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Research shows that there are only 57 of thes still on the road in the uk (out of 470 orginally registered)


How did you find that out??
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 09 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The engines were suicidal. They are the model that caused Honda to sell the VFR750 at a loss for years, trying to get a reputation for reliability that had been destroyed by the VF.

Cams were rumoured to be made by Cadburys. Cranks went as well.

Think they were a long way short of 115hp. Low 90s at best really.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 09 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember seeing a row of vf's all lined up unsold at Moto x motorcycles in Oldham way back in the mid 80's. I was just a skinny little bugger back then & these bikes looked huge. Wonder if any of the ones I saw still survive?
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PostPosted: 03:11 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

so is anything old, which doesnt look too shabby classed as a classic then ?

i always thought that the word classic implied quality in some way

so an allegro wouldnt generally be thought a classic, but a morris minor might

or maybe its just how well known they are
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cant compare an austin allegro with a Morris Minor, they're 20 years apart!. Very Happy

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Thirty-one years after its launch the Austin Allegro has become the ultimate ironic classic car. It was Britain's equivalent to Ford's 1950s marketing disaster the Edsel, and became the symbol of everything that was wrong with British Leyland in the '70s. Billed as the volume-selling saviour of what was then still the world's fourth largest car manufacturer, this dumpy family saloon seemed to get off to a bad start from which it never really recovered. It leaked, its rear screen popped out if you jacked it up in the wrong place and, for some reason, it had a square steering wheel. What's more, if you believed everything you read in the Daily Mail, it was thrown together by Communists who, if they weren't on strike, were kipping on the nightshift. It seems eternally wrapped up in that grim '70s world of the three-day week and power cuts...


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PostPosted: 16:46 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owdamer wrote:


Do you think that woman caught rabies and a rash? Confused
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owdamer wrote:
You cant compare an austin allegro with a Morris Minor, they're 20 years apart!. Very Happy



i never said they were from the same era.

If i wanted to compare a metro to a yaris, I should be allowed to do that too.

i suppose the term classic can be a fondness for something (nostalgia maybe) regardless of whether it is any good or not
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ram_doom wrote:
Owdamer wrote:


Do you think that woman caught rabies and a rash? Confused


Well she'll catch a cold lying on a bonnet dressed like that.....
Its hard to believe that they had adverts like that.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a nice little bike Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owdamer wrote:
Its hard to believe that they had adverts like that.


Funniest one is a clip shown on TV of some semi naked woman trying to climb onto the bonnet of a car for a TV advert.

They really shouldn't have oiled her.

All the best

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