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JonB Afraid of Mileage
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Posted: 15:49 - 27 Feb 2007 Post subject: Is a 200 year sentence Life? |
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https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6399471.stm
Wonder if they will give him parole after 100 years. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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freestyler_onli World Chat Champion
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Over here, 200 year sentence = let out after 5 years for good behaviour with some free heroin, vouchers for shops to stop them stealing and the chance to sue. |
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samharcus Nitrous Nuisance
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h00dwink World Chat Champion
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the courts do put up a good case which is the way you have to look at it.
it's not that they're just images of someone. it's that a child was abused in each image. because he is someone demanding those images he has effectively caused a child to be abused.
sucks to be him ____________________ Sahf East Winnah 4LYF
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h00dwink World Chat Champion
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no they didn't do it for him alone (not what i said), but it's the fact that there's such a demand for these images because of people such as him that they're taken and put on the internet.
he didn't take the pictures, but he asked for them. they were taken for him (not literally).
by extension of his hand a child was abused ____________________ Sahf East Winnah 4LYF
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this isn't about justifying anything you want though, which shows as that's where common sense is applied. this is child abuse.
i feel it should be the same sentance as the people who took the images. if people didn't get their kicks over such things then the kids wouldn't be getting abused to fullfill the demand.
now people will say- yea they will as it's still going to happen (which is true). but if there were no money in selling accounts of the porn sites these are hosted on then, the guys who're JUST in it to make money would be fullfilling peoples other fantasies, leaving far more children with their innocence intact. ____________________ Sahf East Winnah 4LYF
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Hi
I doubt that there are any normal people who would stoop to that purely to supply a few odd shots for the web pervs. A few might claim it, but suspect they would have done it anyway.
There is a massive difference between someone doing the abuse and someone viewing the results. Totally different league. A sense of proportion is needed . 200 years for having 10 images? He would probably get the same effective sentence (locked up for life) if he had been found guilty of ten cases of actually doing it.
Doing otherwise is showing a lack of application of common sense. It is easy to get judgemental when dealing with such scum, but doing so just lays the groundwork for similar OTT sentences in other areas.
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h00dwink World Chat Champion
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cheers keith, this is a good debate
i'd say that there are "normal" people taking the pictures. although that depends on your deffinition of normal. who in the straight porn business honestly could say they'd like to film/take pictures of (amongst other nasty fetishes) scat? but were the money there they'd probably do it, and evidently some do.
i feel it would stem the flow of some of it with these sentances that make an example of the accused. not all would be lost, but there would be an amount lost. the oppertunists if you will.
the thing about the 200 years, i'd say that's over the top. it seems like it's a very strange punishment to dish out, like adding insult to injury. surely 30, 40 or 50 years in jail would see him dieing in there. but this is just going by the book, and like you said not applying common sense.
like what has been put up in cases in court, wanting to see evidence (the pictures) of it, is not a far cry from him actually going out and doing it. which is quite likely he would eventually do, be it prostitute or groomed.
you put up a good point, it is difficult to be impartial over what is in question. ____________________ Sahf East Winnah 4LYF
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h00dwink wrote: | who in the straight porn business honestly could say they'd like to film/take pictures of (amongst other nasty fetishes) scat? but were the money there they'd probably do it, and evidently some do. |
Suspect that there is way too much standing opinion for there to be any real commercial interest, at least compared to those predators who do it and just share the results.
h00dwink wrote: | i feel it would stem the flow of some of it with these sentances that make an example of the accused. not all would be lost, but there would be an amount lost. the oppertunists if you will. |
Possibly true, but the same can be said about just about every offence. How about a 1 year sentence for each offence of possessing pirated items?
h00dwink wrote: | surely 30, 40 or 50 years in jail would see him dieing in there. but this is just going by the book, and like you said not applying common sense. |
Probably true, and again pretty much the same effective sentence as he would have got for directly abusing the kids.
h00dwink wrote: | is not a far cry from him actually going out and doing it. which is quite likely he would eventually do, be it prostitute or groomed. |
I would not agree with that. It is a very far cry. And as to eventually doing it, wonder how many people who have looked at stuff on Rotten.com will go out and use a sword to cut someones head off?
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 62 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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