Is a 200 year sentence Life?

[JonB]

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6399471.stm

Wonder if they will give him parole after 100 years.
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[cestrian]

I have a feeling he's gonna be someones 'bitch'.

[Dalemac]

stupid child porn twat.
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[Mary Jane]

a "life" sentence is generally 50 years, and sometimes you can be eligible for parole after around 30.

In this case, he's got 20 consecutive 10-year sentences, with no chance of parole.

And good for my home state of AZ For putting scum like him away for good!

[m99dws]

Save the tax payer some money, end him now.

[Marcg868]

Chop his cock and balls off the filthy bastard.

Rapists, child molesterers and users of child porn should be locked away for good.

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[freestyler_onli]

Over here, 200 year sentence = let out after 5 years for good behaviour with some free heroin, vouchers for shops to stop them stealing and the chance to sue.

[samharcus]

[h00dwink]

the courts do put up a good case which is the way you have to look at it.
it's not that they're just images of someone. it's that a child was abused in each image. because he is someone demanding those images he has effectively caused a child to be abused.

sucks to be him
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[Brod122]

[quote] Indeed, the prosecutor had asked for a 340-year sentence but the trial judge imposed the minimum of 10 years for each of 20 images - to be served consecutively for a total of 200 years without the possibility of probation."

'I would like this man to serve 340 years, what? Only 200? Thats not nearly long enough for this 53 year old man to think about what hes done!"

Jokes aside, making our world a safer place, im happy.

[phk6]

what will they do if he becomes the 1st person to live to over 253?

let him out?
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[h00dwink]

i was thinking that, would be kinda ironic if he actually served the whole time and was released
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[h00dwink]

no they didn't do it for him alone (not what i said), but it's the fact that there's such a demand for these images because of people such as him that they're taken and put on the internet.
he didn't take the pictures, but he asked for them. they were taken for him (not literally).
by extension of his hand a child was abused
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Sorry, really do not agreee with that. You could use such logic to justify draconian sentences for anything you want. Effectively it it the same sentence for those who make the images (given that none of them are likely to survive their sentence) which is far worse.

All the best

Keith
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[h00dwink]

this isn't about justifying anything you want though, which shows as that's where common sense is applied. this is child abuse.

i feel it should be the same sentance as the people who took the images. if people didn't get their kicks over such things then the kids wouldn't be getting abused to fullfill the demand.

now people will say- yea they will as it's still going to happen (which is true). but if there were no money in selling accounts of the porn sites these are hosted on then, the guys who're JUST in it to make money would be fullfilling peoples other fantasies, leaving far more children with their innocence intact.
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Hi

I doubt that there are any normal people who would stoop to that purely to supply a few odd shots for the web pervs. A few might claim it, but suspect they would have done it anyway.

There is a massive difference between someone doing the abuse and someone viewing the results. Totally different league. A sense of proportion is needed . 200 years for having 10 images? He would probably get the same effective sentence (locked up for life) if he had been found guilty of ten cases of actually doing it.

Doing otherwise is showing a lack of application of common sense. It is easy to get judgemental when dealing with such scum, but doing so just lays the groundwork for similar OTT sentences in other areas.

All the best

Keith
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[h00dwink]

cheers keith, this is a good debate

i'd say that there are "normal" people taking the pictures. although that depends on your deffinition of normal. who in the straight porn business honestly could say they'd like to film/take pictures of (amongst other nasty fetishes) scat? but were the money there they'd probably do it, and evidently some do.
i feel it would stem the flow of some of it with these sentances that make an example of the accused. not all would be lost, but there would be an amount lost. the oppertunists if you will.

the thing about the 200 years, i'd say that's over the top. it seems like it's a very strange punishment to dish out, like adding insult to injury. surely 30, 40 or 50 years in jail would see him dieing in there. but this is just going by the book, and like you said not applying common sense.

like what has been put up in cases in court, wanting to see evidence (the pictures) of it, is not a far cry from him actually going out and doing it. which is quite likely he would eventually do, be it prostitute or groomed.


you put up a good point, it is difficult to be impartial over what is in question.
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[Brod122]

I'm not sure at all why/when the "Life sentance" only became 25 years, or how long its been around. If a long period of time, possibley when the life expectancy was lower? But certainly a "Life sentance" should mean "You will die in jail." for lack of a better phrase. It would stop the silly 200+ year sentances they're giving around. The sad thing is I can see them argueing over 320 or 200 year sentance.

Also, on a side note, I dont think life in jail is justified by a few pictures (DEPENDING on the pictures!) Theres no information on what the pictures displayed.

May I remind that a man interested in 15 year olds is branded the same as one in young-children. highly wrong imho, bairing in mind for a long time a fully grown man marrying a girl of 12+ was considered the norm.

Brod

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[CortezTheKill...]

If someone went out and smashed someone in the face, they'd get done for assault. If you had a picture on your computer of the assault, would you expect to get prosecuted?
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[stu19631]

got no problem with the sentence as such but surely if he is getting a much larger sentence than rapists and murders if they ever caught the sick f**ks that made the videos they would get a lesser sentance than him and that is not right got to addmit though amercan version is better than ours they stick in prison for ecver we put in a half way house by a school