Racist Tory, or more PC dross?

Mister James · I want to believe! Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Karma :

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=0MTJHY2I5A12JQFIQMFSFFWAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/03/08/nmercer108.xml

Naturally, he's being misquoted by most news sources. Note the following:

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Dom · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Karma :

The latter, almost certainly. I'm quite surprised that he still decided to come out with those comments though as these days there's not a hope in hell of keeping your job as a politician after saying something like that. Especially when Mr PR is your boss.
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Gpz 900R · Nova Slayer Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Karma :

Having served for over 20 years in the forces i think his comments were spot on, i get really pissed off with all this crap people get for telling it how it is, i have seen people first hand play the race card to get promotion, then as females became intergrated in to regiments the sexist card played, i'm not racist or sexist before the pc members start having a go.

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Just imagine if someone was fat, black and had ginger hair, the piss taking would never end, especially in the army Laughing

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Annabella · Like a person, only smaller Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

The media has completely over-hyped this and taken his comments out of their original context.

His point was that people of ethnic origin are treated no differently in the army to anyone else. Not, as the BBC reported, that all blacks are referred to as "Black Bastards".
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akaDAVE · World Chat Champion Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Karma :

I read the full comments and none of it was 'racist'. The bloke was just talking about real life situations from his experience in the army. He is qualified to do so.
His criticism was of a Racism union, not of ethnic minority soldiers. He was pointing out the fact that in the army they are all the same, some good some bad.
The problem is that his realism doesn't fit with the over sensitive PC nonsense policy of the Tory party. It's pathetic.
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Mister James · I want to believe! Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Karma :

AKADave as highlighted the most crucial aspect of this story; namely that David Cameron should be supporting this decorated ex-serviceman for speaking the truth, not jumping on the PC bandwagon to curry favour with the liberal press.
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Darkside · Trackday Trickster Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Karma :

Perfectly justifiable what he said, I believe the media have twisted his words to make what he has said an across the board depiction of ethnics in the Army.
In the Army training has to be made arduous as possible, and if references are made to everyone then i see no problem here.
Having completed army training myself and been subject to such apparent "insults" I feel it does nothing but make you stronger.
If you cannot emotionally handle comments such as these during training I see no way as to how on earth you will last on operational duties.
Many people holler 'racism' as they have no idea of some of the vigours to army life because they are so adjusted to civilian life.
The exposing by the media to what has been going on in the Army for years and subsequently one of the best fighting forces in the world (on a limited budget) has done nothing but turn public opinion against the forces yet again.
Even I myself was fooled by the initial spin put on the comments until I read fully whay had been said. Media make me Sick

sometimes.
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h00dwink · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 May 2006 Karma :

i was sickened to read the times and the guardian running the same piece of selective quoting. i thought they were better than that.

https://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article1484909.ece
https://www.guardian.co.uk/military/story/0,,2029423,00.html

because of which, they're no better than the average tabloid paper.
the selective quoting was absolutely disgraceful and irresponsible. as such it resulted in an upstanding member of the community losing his job.

anybody who isn't a dribbling, bib wearing, complete moron will be able to realise this.
alas we live in a country where the sun is the most read newspaper (magazine).
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Mister James · I want to believe! Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Karma :

The Guardian is infamous for its selective quoting - and the Times has gone down-hill in recent years.

In many ways, the Guardian is more insidious than the Sun, because as a broadsheet, people assign it slightly more credibility. I read both it and the Telegraph, and find it to be the paper that injects the most amount of bias into its actual stories, rather than confining it to the editorial page.
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