Lids

J0Al1 · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Karma :

I had a Shoei and didn't like it - it didn't fit me right (XS).

Got an Arai - which I love, but its too big . . . . . (XS) !

I have to push the helmet back down onto my head at faster speeds and it shunts when I do a shoulder check! Not right.

I like the look of the Suomy, what are they like?

I'm sure trying them all on is the best idea, just not sure when I'll get a chance to do that!

Does anyone know of a make that comes up small?

I don't think getting a 51-52 cm helmet is the answer - I'm sure I'll never get itover my head.

pwntifex · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Karma :

Maybe you wouldn't waste so much money on lids that didn't fit properly if you went and tried them on. Confused

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MattEMulsion · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Karma :

You must have a very small head!!! Very Happy

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J0Al1 · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Karma :

pwntifex · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Karma :

You could always buy some new lining?
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Kaben · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Karma :

What arai is it?
If its a Condor you are stuffed as it does not have a removable lining.
If its anything else you can get XXS set of cheek pads/crown for it to help with the fitting.
If you want/need an entirely new helmet, the Arai Astro light comes in XXS and XXXS sizes.(Astro light is same as the Astro R, just in teeny weeny sizes)

As for Suomy, they are not a bad lid, however for the money you are spending (£300-400) you would be much better served by an ARAI.

UK Suomy lids are not as strong as their US counterparts- they are built differently to the US spec ones as they only have to pass EC-22-05 testing, whilst they need to pass the much stricter SNELL tests in the states.

(EC-22-05 tests only specific points on the helmet, so manufacturers purposefully strengthen these areas to allow them to pass. SNELL tests any point on the helmet, chosen by the tester at random, thus manufacturers cannot get away with only strengthening certain areas.)

So change the Arai's lining if you can, otherwise try an Astro Light.
Lining will cost about £35 for cheek pads and £30 for the crown.
If you go to a "5 Star" dealer, they should have those pads in stock to let you try altering the fitments.

Kaben
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J0Al1 · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Karma :

slimjim04 · Nearly there... Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Karma :

hey monkeypie, why on earth diddnt you check all that when you tried it on. a good fitting helmet should should feel snug and comfortable, squashed cheeks looking like a hampster with full pouches as my better half says fits and is comfortable Thumbs Up

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Afraid trying on lots of brands is the only answer really - if you can, try and get to a show with lots of stalls you should be able to try on most models on offer in a day.

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cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

Heck! My 5 year old son needs an XS size lid Shocked

J0Al1 · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Karma :

Thanks for everyones info.

I had a biker look at the fit and they confirmed . . its too big Sad

So, I went to a shop (girlsbike2) to get fitted correctly. They said I could get an XXS Arai or a different brand.

They tried the Chaser on me and said it moves so much, it couls break my nose or spine. Fatter cheek pads might be OK, but a closer shell with tight fitting cheek pads is better. www.racevisors.co.uk have been so kind as to cancel my order for fatter cheek pads.

So, I'm selling my almost new Chaser and am getting . . . . .

https://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/urban-helmets/n20-astro.htm

WOW this fits well, does not budge . . . . . !
Made my AGV I belive and brand new to market. Only 100, so after selling my Arai - I won't be out of pocket by much.

Oh and just call me pin head. Smile

J0Al1 · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Karma :

trevoriv · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Karma :

Suomy lids come up small compared to other brands, the only lid that is comfortable for me is a size S Suomy.

Good job i like their designs Mr. Green

KTM Gordo · Brolly Dolly Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Karma :

The trouble with having a small head is that some helmet manufacturers only make one or two different sizes of shell - they then use padding to reduce them down to fit smaller heads. The more padding there is, the more likely it is to compress over time which leads to a loose fit.

With your Arai, the proper way for the shop to fit it is to first of all find out what size you need based on the crown padding. They do that by taking out the cheek pads and letting you try it on. It should fit well around the top (crown) of your head. Once you've got a shell that fits (Arai make lots of different sized shells), the cheek pads can be changed to suit. Most dealers don't do this as it's time consuming, but it's how it should be done.

Glad to hear you seem to have found one that fits though Smile

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