Two strokes outlawed

[Scotty]

point taken and noted for future reference.
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Scott

[Dr Nick]

[Crash it for fun]

depends how fast you peddle I guess?

[Racer X]

Worried about bans on 2 strokes?!?!
RELAX!!!
Come down in the caribbean, anything goes here and there are no such known laws of emmission regulations for cars or motorcycles.
2 stroke haven is here in paradise.
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[Scotty]

With the roads in the caribeen.

I think if a few members from BCF went their they wouldnt be able to find their bikes let alone ride them, (all that good plant stuff)
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Scott

[Crash it for fun]

[paulcdb]

just curious....

But do peds actually produce emmisions? ROFL Can't say i've noticed as usually there just a blur in the mirror

Do agree they should be banned and the riders made to seek help!!! Can't help laugh at them when they have this idea lifting the front off the ground while walking it down the road is a "wheelie"

Only thing worries me more, is it actually seemed to be impressing people
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Think small bikes are currently exempt from the emisions laws. How long for I don't know.

2 strokes are really bad for emisions. A single 50cc 2 stroke moped produces about half the emisions of (from memory) a bus.

All the best

Keith
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[Bhaal85]

Funniest thing I seen, is a really fat bird on a moped. She beat my mate who was riding a fully deristricted MITO. HAHAHAH. FUNNY.

[P_J]

They got rid of 4* fuel and replaced with this LRP junk as a work around for older engines.

Does anyone know if there is a work around for people already owning NSR's or other 2Stroke machines or are the ones in circulation ok Re, emission laws.

Is there anything you can do to the engine/parts/etc to reduce emissions to an acceptable (as far as they are concerned) level.
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[Ste]

If the bike is already registered it is fine. They just can't register new ones.

[P_J]

My NSR, at the moment is smoking like fcuk.

If i start it in the morning with the choke out (have to coz its cold and wet) it smokes for ages.

I left it for about 5 mins warming up while i was in the house getting ready and i thought something had cought fire when i came out.

If i start it initialy with the choke, then play with the revs at about 3k 5k RPM and knock the choke off within bout 20 / 30 seconds it is fine. A bit cold arsed and pulls away badly but ok as far as the smoke is concerned.

Im using fully Synth Motul 600 from Hein Gericke, but there is a tiny bit of semi synth from last refill.

Could i adjust anything or get some1 else to adjust anything to reduce this smoke (i know they smoke, but this realy does seem too much)

Finaly, when is the recomended milage for 2nd service (Cant find the manual) and how much it likely to cost.

Cheers
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[M1ke]

Generally you want the bike off choke as soon as possible anyway as it leaves loads are carbon deposit in your exhaust etc and chokes up the system. Best way is to rev it gently for a few minutes then ride away, they warm up best that way.

2 strokes smoke, a lot of smoke it much better than no smoke. If its running slightly rich then its not going to do too much damage other than cause you to need to top up your 2 stroke oil a bit more often.

If you are that bothered about it you could ask them to adjust your oil pump when you take it in for its next service (when ever that may be).

Mike

[Scotty]

Choke to start and leave idling for about 5 sec's so it doesnt flood when i move off.
Then as soon as i'm moving, i take it of choke.
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Scott

[Demonic69]

I never left my NSR on choke for more than a minute or 2. Worked much better if I started it and let it idle without chike for a few minutes. Changing the spark plug-also alleviated some smoke on mine.
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[P_J]

[Scotty]

Stick to the standard plug,
Chaniging to incorrect plugs can make the bike run hot, cold, rough, or put a hole in the piston.
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Scott

[Demonic69]

Just bought a new one. There is an alternative listed in the Haynes to make it run a little different though.
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[Scotty]

Usually a high temperture plug if your going to be destroying the engine, or running very high rpm for an excessive amount of time.
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Scott

[Racer X]

In my scooter days i did some experimintations with spark plugs and 2 strokes and i used a car plug once for a Peugeot Buxy and i ended up with a hole in the piston bigger than my eye socket!!!
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[cagiva gezzer]

AFAIK the main big bike producers chose to stop production of all road-going two strokes over 200cc from the year 2000. Hence, no CRM 250, NSR 250 etc...

The european producers decided not to follow suit by choice and waited to the laws FORCED them to stop. Hence, no new RS 250's.

125cc dont count but might be phased out. Honda dont have to stop making them, they have just chosen. (about time to!)

The best way to clean up two strokes is use direct injection, a bit like a deasil car, so less fuel is lost out of the exhaust port.

Current engines can be modified by lowering the exhaust port to decrease the amount of time where fuel can escape out of the exhaust port. This makes the engines low revving and low power. Hang on, thats what honda has been doing for the past couple of years! Explains it all!

Smaller mods like getting the carb set up correctly, removing carbon from the head, keeping the plug fresh, fitting an efficient expansion chamber will help reduce emissions.
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[stevo as b4]

Out lawing of 2 strokes, thats such a crime! we should have long ago had TZR750 v4's and a modern day RGV500 etc. At the very least Aprilia could have put their RSV400 into production. Im looking for a nice 200-250cc trail bike now im rid of my speedfight 100 days! And id rarther shoot myself than have a fourstroke. In fact I could just keep looking for the cheap NS400/RD500 that ive always wanted, 3 or 4 smoking pipes has gotta be better than 1 right!

[Kickstart]