New 1 piece leathers - advice needed

[robbax]

I've just got a one piece Berik suit and am not 100% sure what level of back protection is provided by the hump in the back, is this sufficient for general road use or should I go for a back protector as well. Whilst on the subject what other protectors do people wear under their one piece suits in addition to armour in the suit?

Thanks

[pwntifex]

A hump doesn't provide any protection, it's there for aerodynamic/tarty purposes.
I would generally make sure that you have some kind of back protector.
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[lukamon]

you mean, like the hump racers have on the back of the neck?

i always thought they were so the guy couldnt snap his neck....guess not.....
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[Michael P]

No matter what back protection the suit already has i always ride with and independant back protector reason being if you go down the road leathers can twist on your body if the back protector is part of it it can move away from what its meant to be protecting and that could hurt . an independant back protector is not part of the suit, so in theory it should saty in place even if the leathers twist.
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[robbax]

OK so the hump doesn't serve any safety purpose so seems like I need to get a back protetcor as well, which ones are rated I've read about the Forecfield and Knox ones, are either of these any good and how do the ones built into under shirts and pants rate, any help greatly received.

Whilst on the subject the suit doesn't have any pockets so how do people get round this for carrying money/mobile?

Thanks for the help so far

[pwntifex]

Get a tankbag.
Never be tempted to carry keys/mobile/pens/whatever on you on a bike—if you crash, they can cause some nasty injuries.

As for back protectors, it doesn't really matter as long as they're CE approved. Get what you can afford. You can always go for an Alpinestars MotoGP jobby if you're a real tart.
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[Walloper]

The hump is for aerodynamic drag stuff.

I would never need one as I go too fast and the air just slips past.


There is some controversial spin on the go with regards to back protection.

I like to have something there.
CE approved.

Several layers of stuff seem to flex more, have and less chance of splitting during normal wear.

They also help keep your back warm which is good for your spine.

You could go for one of those S&M full body thingies which you wear under but they are bulky.

And @bcf you should allways have a back protector. Some sneakies on here
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[T.C]

Firstly, don't be sucked in by CE approval, for the main part it is a waste of space as SATRA (who do the CE testing) will approve anything that complies with what the manufacturers state it will do.

For example if a manufacturer states that a garment is waterproof, it will only be tested for waterproofing and if it passes will get CE approval, but they can then make additional claims on the back of that CE accrediation

In respect of back protection, if you can get a memory foam back protector built into your leathers, it will prove far more beneficial than any strap on protector.

All too often I have dealt with riders who have been badly injured because of wearing a back protector (strap on kind), simply because of the fact that they are designed for use on the track rather than on the road, and the conditions we encounter on the road are far different to those on the track.

I am dealing with a case at the moment where a rider is now a paraplegic due entirely to his back protector, but had he been wearing a memory foam one built into his leathers, the chances are he would still be walking about.

I am not saying don't get one, all I am saying is do not place all your faith in one for road riding, I have seen too many people come unstuck simply because they felt that if it was good enough to race in, it must be good for the road.

Same with one piece leathers for the road, different characteristics to a two piece, not practical and a whole load of issues regarding safety on the road.

I am not telling you this because I don't like 1 piece suits (which I don't) it is based on my ongoing research and study over the last 15 years where I have been closely studying the affects of clothing and protective equipment in crash situations in addition to visiting most of the manufacturers around the world.
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