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andrew
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Why would anyone do this to a blade engine? Reply with quote

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Deano
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not, it's just a project.
I know Honda manufactured a car with a 750cc engine once and that moved pretty fast.
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked up one of my dad's Mini magazines yesterday and some fool had put a Super Blackbird engine in a mini. Okay you'd think, but he kept the Blackbird Gearbox, and married the output shaft onto the mini driveshaft. The upshot of this is that the engine actually sits out on the front bumper and looks ugly as hell.
What a waste of a bike engine Sad

And the Mini had no reverse gear (surprise surprise)

The Mini mag were saying stuff like "You have to shift gears sequentially, and you have to use the clutch for first gear, after that just back off the throttle and push the gearlever forward and worryingly it moves up a gear." Rolling Eyes

You wouldn't catch anyone putting a Mini engine in a bike, so its an unfair trade in engines really. Confused

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Evilbob
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: engin Reply with quote

u can get a conversion for a mini to put a R1 engin int he frount AND one in the back Laughing
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why can't they just stick to a dodge viper engine or something?

"Bloomin' cagers! Steal our engines, take our jobs, undersexed and overpaid, do what they bloomin well likes! Somethin' oughtta be done I tells yer! Somethin' oughtta be done! "

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PostPosted: 13:02 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear Ben, looks like you'd better start using the spell checker from now on dude. Confused Laughing
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Phoenix
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love a go in that car, just to see what a car with a Blade engine's like.
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Deano
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
I'd love a go in that car, just to see what a car with a Blade engine's like.


Same here. But if I had the money I would have put a turbo'd busa engine in the mini. It should be able to fit shouldn't it?
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McJamweasel
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are quite a few sports cars that use bike engines. The Radical SK3(?) comes with the option of a ZZR1100, 'Busa or 255BHP 1500cc 'Busa engine! Shocked
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andrew
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes but i wouldnt call that Escort a sports car Laughing Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can understand using a bike engine in a lightweight/kit car, but not in a saloon chassis (I can't read Norweigian or whatever that is, so I dunno how much weight they managed to strip). Torque is more important than outright horsepower in most cars, though mainly to get the beast off the mark.
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 'Busa engine would fit in the Mini, but it would look like some sort of bastard child of a mini and one of those car ferries with a high door on the front. - weird in a word.
A mate of my uncle builds engines for car specials and he has a V8 based on the 'busa mill. Its also long stroke AFAIK so it displaces about 2.8 litres. Shoehorn that longways into a Mini and make it RWD and you've got yerself a car that might impress me. Smile

The best part is that one day some mad fool is gonna mod the 'Busa frame to fit the freaky V8 in to it, cos the overall dimensions are not hugely different from the standard mill. Apparently it makes 320bhp with no tuning. Shocked
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen in one of the bike mags. That some company has made a bike with the Ford RS Cosworth engine, it looked similar to the Buell Firebolt (The sporty lookin one) and it was wide, fat, ugly and just didn't look right at all.
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah its the Munch Mammut. It doesn't have a frame and is near as dammit unrideable, its just a concept. Smile
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.motobykz.co.uk/Munch/Munch.htm
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 10 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool bike!!
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stevo as b4
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 11 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've always had strange thoughts about putting a slightly different engine into a mini, as its a popular car for engine transplants, and small and light, but that means there aain'tmuch space in the engine room, for bigger or more interesting motors. I have always wondered about trying to put a big 2 stroke engine into a mini, as thats gotta be a first surely? The only car i ever heard of with a 2 stroke engine was some really old saab's that apparently were good at rallying! I think a stroker would fit the mini engine bay quite nicely, and say a big kawasaki 750cc triple might go in? or the strangest idea i've ever had is, that maybe a big V4 or V6 outboard boat engine would go in, if its possible to convert it to a closed circuit cooling system? ain't quite sure what type of gearbox would fit tho!
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 11 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a couple of 500cc mx engines and use one on each wheel (or 4, for 4wd, if you're really adventurous).

Should be able to make 100hp each when tuned and weigh just about bugger all as well Smile.
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 11 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
The only car i ever heard of with a 2 stroke engine was some really old saab's that apparently were good at rallying!


Also the Trabants, Wartburgs and a few others. There also used to be some small bike engined sports cars 40 years ago and some / all of those were 2 strokes (Berkleys). There have also been prototype direct injection 2 stroke cars made for evaluation purposes over the past decade (think Ford built ~100 2 stroke Fiestas and had them out being evaluated by some fleet operators).

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stevo as b4
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 11 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

So its possible to build a car with a 2 stroke motor, but im still wondering if a Mercury 3L 200bhp V6 would go into a mini, silly as it is!
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 11 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey i've just bought a lancia y10 turbo. It's a great fun little car with a 1litre turbo engine. i reckon that a cossie engine should fit quite nicely.altough it would take months 2do!
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