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PostPosted: 20:28 - 24 Sep 2007    Post subject: Probably a really basic question but.. Reply with quote

On my top yoke is a bolt I need to undo to fit my new headlamp, but it's a bit mangled, and the spanner wont grip it properly - I know it's the right size, as it worked for the other bolt.. But it just kinda slips round, instead of locking in and turning the bolt.


What does one do in this situation?

/n00b Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 24 Sep 2007    Post subject: Re: Probably a really basic question but.. Reply with quote

First off, make sure you've got another nut to put back on.

For the top yolk it should be fairly easy.
Are you using a 6 point socket? If not, of these or a decent 'wall drive' or similar one will probably do it.

Failing that, you can try some kind of molegrip or similar. Alternatively, you could grind down the sides so they're a size smaller, but straight.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 24 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are no nuts - the bolts screw through the yoke and into the forks.

What I'm using is not a six point socket, I'm not sure of the apt term for it though.

Basically it's one of these:

https://www.lakewoodconferences.com/direct/dbimage/50189268/Combination_Spanner.jpg

The ring type end, is what I'm using.



You'll have to forgive my ignorance, but... Wall drive? Molegrip?
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 24 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.surplusandadventure.com/ishop/800/shopscr3213.html

molegrips
the harder you turn the tighter they grip
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 24 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bad, I didn't actually read your post properly Neutral.

Get a new bolt then, if it's a bolt Smile.

What you've pictured is a 12 point spanner.
The ring end has '12' points. A 6 pointed one will be similar to the shape of the bolt you are turning so less likely to slip.
A wall drive socket is designed to grip the sides rather than the corners of the bolt, meaning that it's less likely to slip and round it off even more.

Machinemart does sets of wall-drive sockets quite cheaply.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 24 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the bolt would need to be quite specific, looking at the other one. It has a rubber o-ring, and the shaft is wider than the head, and hollow, but it has a sort of domed lip between the shaft and the head.. Hard to describe, could get a pic if need be.


G, is this what you're referring to?

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/pro152-18pce-38-drive-socket-set

I searched and this is what I came across.

The bolt's head is 17mm, by the way.
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 24 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, something like that should be ideal.

I haven't used them myself, but I believe they are 6 point wall drive style.

Even if they don't do the job, it's a worthwhile addition to your tool kit Thumbs Up.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 24 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Righto!

Given that they're the same price, would you say I'm better off getting the wall drive sockets or the molegrips? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 24 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wall drive sockets definitely.

You can get more grips for less the fancy ones shown, ie:
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cht352-3-pce-lock-grip-plier-set
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 24 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wall drive sockets give you a better chance of reusing nuts and bolts afterwards, molegrips are extremely useful for other things too. Ideally, you'd want both in your tool kit. I'd say molegrips first, but it's close really. Toss a coin Smile
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PostPosted: 03:11 - 25 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

deanoet wrote:
https://www.surplusandadventure.com/ishop/800/shopscr3213.html

molegrips
the harder you turn the tighter they grip


Kiss of death thous things and the harder you push on them the more damage it dose to the nut / bolt you are using on them

now these do what you are saying
https://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Pipe-Wrench-300mm-Sealey-AK512;jsessionid=ac112b791f4378ac77927ddc4190998ea4700ef2719c.e3eTaxeKbh0Te34Pa38Ta38Oa3r0?sc=2&category=704
great for getting broken studs out but can be a little cumbersome
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