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Pie-Roe
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 20 Nov 2007    Post subject: MCE RANT Reply with quote

Right, Pyro passed his test today, and as such bought the best quote he could get online, Its 480ish with MCE on a GSF600S.

Offers me Direct debit payments, which I'm glad for, and so I choose the 9 month option. I wonder if its going to let me do it, being 17 and all, but yes it lets me give a hefty 160 deposit. That left my account, and then I get an email asking me to ring a premium rate number, to 'clarify' some details. Fair enough I thought, rang up, and speak firstly to some bint who had no clue what she was doing and thought she'd put me on hold while she told a guy what she wanted from the chippy Rolling Eyes realises I'm not on hold and then states that she doesnt know how to resolve my issues, or indeed what they may be, and she will get someone to ring me back.

The woman who emailed me calls back, and states that because I'm only 17, I cant legally enter a credit agreement or give direct debits (which they had already prompted me to do, and nowhere stated 18+ or indeed checked before taking my money)
Now I dont have anyone that is 18 that will do this, So I politely ask for a full refund, based that they can't provide a service they advertised and that they took a deposit for. Apparently I'm going to lose 30 quid because their website is misleading. And the bike still wont start Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: 15:26 - 20 Nov 2007    Post subject: Re: MCE RANT Reply with quote

pyroforlife wrote:
The woman who emailed me calls back, and states that because I'm only 17, I cant legally enter a credit agreement


Correct. At least without someone to garuntee it (which would in effect mean the credit agreement was with them).

pyroforlife wrote:
Apparently I'm going to lose 30 quid because their website is misleading.


No, they have missold the policy, and you should certainly have a 14 day get out clause on distance selling regulations.

All the best

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PostPosted: 16:15 - 20 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raise a complaint, then take it to the fos, I'm sick of insurance companies trying to scam people like this.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 20 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Keith says

Tell them you were missold the policy and you want your money back.

They will eventually give you the money back and say that they are doing you a huge favour when they realise that you aren't going away.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 20 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar problem with them today, I had insured my 650 with them in Sept just TPFT to keep it covered whilst I sold it. Anyway I sold it Saturday and the chap was coming to pick it up this afternoon at 1615 while I was at work.

So I ring MCE and tell them I want to cancel the insurance;

"Sure" they say "...return the certificate to us with a covering letter".

"Great", I say "...but that'll mean the bike is still insured until you get the letter."

"Yes, that's right", she replied,

"Isn't that illegal?" I ask "because surely the new owner is going to insure it at the same time?"

"Well, yes but we can't cancel the insurance until we have it in writing"

WTF?

"Can't I e-mail you, wouldn't that be classed as 'in writing', and can you then cancel the insurance today?"

"Yeah I suppose so but we still need the letter and certificate"

Will I ever use them again? Will I bollocks!
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 20 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeeR, I think you are being a bit hard on MCE as what you have stated is pretty much standard practice. If you want to cancel insurance then you generally have to send the original certificate back to them and cancel in writing.

As for two people insuring the same thing at the same time then I am 99% sure it is not illegal. It only becomes a problem if you try and claim twice on two different insurance policies for the same thing. Besides it is all to do with having an 'insurable interest' in something, ie if that geezer binned the bike after you had sold it, you couldn't claim on your still valid insurance policy as you have no 'interest' in the bike.

Pyroforlife, you shouldn't have rung MCE on their premium rate number, always use a cheaper option - you can normally get put through to the right department. Have you not heard of the website www.saynoto0870.com ??? MCE have their normal rate numbers listed on there. Thumbs Up
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Ichy
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 20 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leer I can't see what your problem is?
Would you prefer it if someone could randomly phone up, claim they are you, and cancel your policy without you knowing?
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 20 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been with MCE for about three years and they are excellent! They don't charge much to add or remove bikes from the policy, and I do that all the time. I've bought and sold bikes so much in the last three years that they must think I'm a bit doolally!

Can't say I have any complaints about them.

When I was 17 I knew perfectly well I couldn't pay my insurance in installments, so I didn't try...
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 20 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeeR wrote:

"Isn't that illegal?" I ask "because surely the new owner is going to insure it at the same time?"

"Well, yes but we can't cancel the insurance until we have it in writing"

That's the bit that I would have issue, because it is not illegal as far as I know, so there's no issue.

The rest is standard practice really.

I have had bad and rude service from MCE in the past, however.


Oh and pyro I would have a quick look into your rights regarding a refund then request to speak to a manager if they don't give you a full refund.
If the manager acts similarly (as was my experience), I'd take their name then offer them a last chance and explain how you'll be taking them to the small claims court as well as trading standards and the insurance ombudsman.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 20 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyro, how did you pay your deposit? If by some sort of card contact the issuer and stop the transaction, will save you grief if you can do this Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 20 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh and pyro I would have a quick look into your rights regarding a refund then request to speak to a manager if they don't give you a full refund.
If the manager acts similarly (as was my experience), I'd take their name then offer them a last chance and explain how you'll be taking them to the small claims court as well as trading standards and the insurance ombudsman.


I've now been offered full refund with no charge, but its expected to take 4-6 weeks, I'm getting a phone call tomorow to inform me of the exact date. My feeling is If they are going to have my money that long, I'm getting compensation or insurance for the time.

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Pyro, how did you pay your deposit? If by some sort of card contact the issuer and stop the transaction, will save you grief if you can do this


Unfortunately by solo direct from bank account, so the monies are gone and unretrievable.

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When I was 17 I knew perfectly well I couldn't pay my insurance in installments, so I didn't try...


Yes, I did beleive that it wasn't possible, but as I had read the terms and saw no sign of needing to be 18+ and it didnt stop me even knowing my DOB I assumed that it was ok, in my OMG I just passed I'm going for a blast excitement.


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PostPosted: 13:29 - 21 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt/Ichy/G - thanks for the advice, I appreciate where you're coming from, I'd never had it happen before. I mean usually a few security questions, and pop the certificate back in the post, or as with Direct Line shred it, and there's never been a problem. But t'is all done and dusted now, cheers. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 21 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i payed monthly with bennetts and 1st quote at 17.
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 21 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

im 16 and i chose to do do the 9month credit thing aswell. my premium is £360 for tpft on a super9 50cc, so far ive heard nothing about when the money is due to come out of my account each month but they took my £72 deposit so i assumed that everything was ok.
i havent received my cover note , i bought the quote on saturday and have heard nothing from them, i phoned up on monday and they said that i should receive my the cover note today or tomorrow.
so far mce are pi55ing me off big time. i wanna know what is happening and i get told nothing.

after you had bought the insurance did you get a message come up saying somebody will contact you in the next 2 days. (i did but they didnt contact me,just wondering if the same happened to you)

do you mind me asking how you were paying yours. ie visa, etc
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PostPosted: 00:02 - 22 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

iam with mce not had any problems but they are just an insurance broker arnt they? ihad one bike insured and iwas coverd with axa, but now with my new bike iam with another company but through mce but not any problems thanks alot


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PostPosted: 11:09 - 22 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to pay insurance in monthly instalments, try using eBike. You can pay monthly, and they'll send you a new certificate every month. It'll be classed as one overall insurance policy though so you'll still accumulate NCB, but you basically pay for it bit by bit as if you're buying a new policy every month.
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