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Kris
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Heavy duty and OE clutch plates.. Reply with quote

What's the difference? Is it worth the extra money on a roadbike used for the occasional trackday? Do the stiffer clutch springs last longer etc and what are any other benefits?

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Ste
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Re: Heavy duty and OE clutch plates.. Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
Ste you are not welcome in this thread. Laughing The clutches *fear* you...

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I've never actually experiemented with any of the uprated pads or springs. Stiffer springs would give the clutch more of a bite I would expect. Worth it? Financially they don't cost much more, but I'd expect racing clutch type bits not to last as long.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Re: Heavy duty and OE clutch plates.. Reply with quote

Nah, the 'racing' ones are usually kevlar rather than cork for longer life. Don't think they offer significant advantages for racing apart from the longer life, it's not like you're putting them under much strain apart from the start when racing anyway.
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Kris
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should I spend an extra tenner on the HD ones though? Yay or nay please Very Happy
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Ste
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't bother myself.

Is the bike working now? Smile
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting to see that the two local experts on mechanical (un)sympathy reply to this one. Razz

I guess it depends on whether you're willing to cope with a heavier clutch for some extra clutch life.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you plan to do lots of wheelies kris it would be a good idea.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Day to day commuting would cane my hand if i had a heavier clutch so i wouldn't do it.
if you can wheelie and burnout well and aren't a newbie at it then i'd say got for standard.

A few months ago i went to a nice car park with minesweeper/Matt to practise out wheelies. now he's always been piss poor at burnout's so he tried again... and burned the thing out - the twat Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anything stuff like town work is more likely to knacker the clutch, lots of slipping at in slow moving traffic etc.
Wheelies on a big bike shouldn't knacker the clutch much.
Depending on the bike, drag style starts can do though. As can using the clutch to do rolling burnouts.

I'd say go for it, just 'cos it means it should last longer. Never had a significant problem with it feeling too heavy or anything.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try it just for the difference,. and if it does last longer then you wont have to strip the bike down again...
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally don't see the point in heavier springs - you get a heavier clutch, and so less feel (if the muscles in your hand are straining you aren't going to feel much, you just want to let go).

If it isn't slipping, theres no need to make the springs grab any harder.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
I personally don't see the point in heavier springs - you get a heavier clutch, and so less feel (if the muscles in your hand are straining you aren't going to feel much, you just want to let go).

If it isn't slipping, theres no need to make the springs grab any harder.


I agree with Robby,
The only time I can concieve that you might need heavier springs is if you big bore a bike - something where there is a significant increase in torque anyway. Otherwise, you'll only destroy the balance the manufacturer spent ages trying to achieve when designing the bike.

As for heavy duty plates, if you do loads of GP style starts from every set of lights, you do loads of burnouts or you generally slip the clutch it might be worth bunging them in. Otherwise don't bother. Smile
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clutch plates cost fuck all. A clutch takes fuck all time to replace. Go figure.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

£50 a shot, not that cheap. And it's still hassle.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 14 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was referring to heavy duty clutch plates by the way. Don't see there's much needs for heavy duty clutchs springs unless you are giving them serious abuse.
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 15 Jan 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you have tunes the engine alot and you do alot of drag racing there isnt any point in getting a heavy duty clutch.
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