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PostPosted: 16:53 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: van condensation problems... any ideas? Reply with quote

I bought a van t'other week... nice little fiat scudo... not had any major problems with it (yet) and its perfect for what I use it for... only thing is, every morning I get up and the inside of the windscreen is soaked... full on condensation.. wiping it just smears it arond and doens't really dry it out so I have to wait AGES for the heater to clear it.

Any ideas why this is happening and what I can do or put on windscreen to stop it/prevent it?

the door seals seem fine, windscreen seal seems fine and its got a full factory bulkhead, so I'm not really sure why its doing it... are there any products out there to prevent this happenin?
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like it's just got damp one time, and hasn't fully dried out, a guy I know at work has the same problem, so much so that when it's frosty he's late, as he has two sides to scrape Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heater matrix leaking? Theres water getting in there somewhere......
My own car does it, but i cant be arsed to get the screen done to stop the leak so instead i drilled a small hole in the footwell to help let the water out. Mr. Green Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Nb said.
You may have a Grommet drain plug dooffur choked with shite. Poke it out and try again. Getting wet should not affect the long term humidity in the van. As long as it can drain (and also ventilate) you will be fine.
You could help by making sure no water is running in by skooshing a hose up inside the wheels and have your Girlfriend sit inside to look for leaks. Tell her she may get splashed, but that it is only water. She'll be fine. Wink Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh actually, I think the driver side footwell has a slight hole as water does seem to get in the floor, I haven't investigated it properly yet, so if there is water on the cab floor, this could be causing the screen to be covered in water after it's been left overnight? I keep meaning to rip the flooring up and get this hole welded/chemical metaled and then re-carpet the floor... hopefully that will stop the problem then?

My work van has the same problem in the winter, both sides of the screen ice up Laughing it has awesome heaters on it (ford transit, best heaters ever) and within a few minutes it starts snowing Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the ventilation system, if you,ve got it set on fresh air coming in ,it will condensate.
Change it to circulate and shut your side vents.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

manxscot wrote:
Check the ventilation system, if you,ve got it set on fresh air coming in ,it will condensate.
Change it to circulate and shut your side vents.


funnily enough I set the vents to recirculate earlier today when trying to clear the screen and left it like that, side vents are shut.. so will see tomorow if screen has condensated again. might solve the problem maybe
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you will find the opposite it true, put it on recirculate and it will make the problem worse.....
If you have a water leak into the footwell you will get condensation on the inside of the windscreen.
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nb wrote:
I think you will find the opposite it true, put it on recirculate and it will make the problem worse.....
If you have a water leak into the footwell you will get condensation on the inside of the windscreen.


OK, I think that's the problem then... I'll rip the flooring up next week and chemical metal the hole/get welded if its big.

Will update if it solves the problem Smile thanks.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 09 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nb wrote:
I think you will find the opposite it true, put it on recirculate and it will make the problem worse.....
If you have a water leak into the footwell you will get condensation on the inside of the windscreen.


If the air-vents are open it will let outside dampness in.
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PostPosted: 02:56 - 10 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the windscreen out, problem solved. Get some driving goggles.
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PostPosted: 07:39 - 10 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the van open to the back or does it have a bulkhead.
If open the cause is all the bare metal with no insulation in back cooling rapidly and condensating overnight.
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 10 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stevep wrote:
Is the van open to the back or does it have a bulkhead.
If open the cause is all the bare metal with no insulation in back cooling rapidly and condensating overnight.


^ thats what i think too, my scudo used to do the same unill i had it lined with bulkhead, if you look in the back of most vans you'll find condensation on the roof in the mornings!
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 10 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

manxscot wrote:
Nb wrote:
I think you will find the opposite it true, put it on recirculate and it will make the problem worse.....
If you have a water leak into the footwell you will get condensation on the inside of the windscreen.


If the air-vents are open it will let outside dampness in.


Breath into a clear plastic bag and close it. Observe.
Open it. Observe.

You should notice you get condensation build up which will remain until you open the bag.

I hope this helps.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 10 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ant wrote:
Stevep wrote:
Is the van open to the back or does it have a bulkhead.
If open the cause is all the bare metal with no insulation in back cooling rapidly and condensating overnight.


^ thats what i think too, my scudo used to do the same unill i had it lined with bulkhead, if you look in the back of most vans you'll find condensation on the roof in the mornings!


Van is ply lined and has a full factory bulkhead.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 10 Feb 2008    Post subject: Re: van condensation problems... any ideas? Reply with quote

Sparks! wrote:
I bought a van t'other week... nice little fiat scudo... not had any major problems with it (yet) and its perfect for what I use it for... only thing is, every morning I get up and the inside of the windscreen is soaked... full on condensation.. wiping it just smears it arond and doens't really dry it out so I have to wait AGES for the heater to clear it.

Any ideas why this is happening and what I can do or put on windscreen to stop it/prevent it?

the door seals seem fine, windscreen seal seems fine and its got a full factory bulkhead, so I'm not really sure why its doing it... are there any products out there to prevent this happenin?


DOGGING !! Shocked

You need to stop going out late at night and hanging around in laybys and carparks with the interior light on Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: 22:32 - 10 Feb 2008    Post subject: Re: van condensation problems... any ideas? Reply with quote

MikeH wrote:


DOGGING !! Shocked

You need to stop going out late at night and hanging around in laybys and carparks with the interior light on Laughing Laughing

Mike Wink


So turning the interior light off will solve the problem? I can take a torch or some candles with me next time if it'll solve the problem Wink
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 10 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

My car is a bastard for it, its damp on the carpets and driving around with the heat from the engine making the inside hot, as soon as i park up and close the windows it looks like a steam room.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny GSX-R wrote:
My car is a bastard for it, its damp on the carpets and driving around with the heat from the engine making the inside hot, as soon as i park up and close the windows it looks like a steam room.


That's what you get for having a 'Flash Git's Motor'..... Mr. Green Laughing
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