I'm not a racist but........

qwerty killer · Nova Slayer Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Karma :

Im a bit fed up at the whole system at the mo, britain that is.

Now I take everyone as they come if your a good bloke/girl then I will prob end up being your friend and will go out of my way to say hi each morning at work or what have you. And if your an arse hole then well expect the opposit, thats your choise nun the less weather you want to be an arse hole or a friendly person and i belive in that. So if your black, white, yellow, pink or green with pink spots on you I take you for what you are.

I have been finding it hard to find a good permanent job for the 3 years, I have been doing a lot of agencey work for the last 2/3 years while i find the right job for me. I have a good education GCSE's 2 B's and the rest C's, very good with computers great work experience as a supervisor in customer service and yet still finding it close to impossible to find a good job due to lack of there being jobs or jobs that pay atlest just over min wage.

I'm not a racist but........ every place I have worked for the last year (all warehouse work) there is only 5%-10% of english people working there the rest are poles and speek about 5 words of english, witch makes training e.c.t. close to impossable and they make lots of mistakes yet there is still 90%-95% of them working there.

So the answer im looking for is why?? I know the answer to why they want to, from speaking to lots of them (I have become friends with 5 poles and there good mates), such as better money and family back in poland get benafits from britten because they work in this country. Witch all in all is fine what-ever everyone wants a better life right....

So why is this country giving jobs to poles e.c.t. when there is tons and tons of english lads that need jobs and cant find them anywhere so turn to crime, and say if one pops up it pays so low its not worth it and why is it that low... prob due to the amunt of people from other countrys ok with working for pennys because they make it up in bennafits??? I dont know but i know one thing im very fed up and want a change......

views.....

Karma

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Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

Immigrants will tolerate a far lower standard of living and are consequently prepared to work for far less than an english person. Which suits the rich to a T and is why the rich will employ an immigrant over a native brit.
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Kris · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Welcome to the EU. Very Happy

Everyone's standard of living will be reduced to the lowest common denominator. Soon, we will doing the slave work that China has been doing for years.

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GodzGift · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 May 2006 Karma :

What type of job are you talking about? If you have next to no skills/experience you cant expect to be earning 50k. Get qualified> get a better job>
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Itchy · Super Spammer Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

Polish people are actually going home in large numbers due to the currency fluctuations , but by enlarge they will work harder , longer and put up with more crud.

And you have GCSEs? and a bit of experience here and there and expect to be paid ££££££ ?.

Join the real world,

I'm nearly a triple graduate (2 paid for by myself) have 3 highly valued post grad qualifications also done off my own bat and I am approaching 3 years experience.

I'm only just approaching decent pay which I expect to go up a fair bit over the next few years, I put time and effort into such things, if you just do a job go home sit and watch TV and biatch about bad life then its YOUR FAULT,

High(er) paid jobs except for public sector work is EARNED and isn't handed down as a right.

Get some decent experience and some decent qualifications, it might (not guarenteed) pay off.

And come to think about it, if you think about it , if not very good jobs were paid £20 an hour, all that would happen is that everything else would increase by the same rate.
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Scouse · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Karma :

Speaking to a local factory owner recently I learned the 'plus side' of taking on foreigners.
According to him they are more popular than the brits because (apart from the fact they will work for less and will happily share a baked bean tin with ten others) they are easier to get rid of. Because they all have 'agents' that bring them over and keep an eye on them, all the guy has to do is say that he isn't happy with 'so and so' and said worker is taken out and shipped straight home with a replacement shoved straight in his place.

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Keir · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Karma :

you have to remember that everyone starts at the bottom. yeah the jobs can be crap but it will change if you knuckle down and do well. you will climb the ladder alot quicker than the imports without fail.

as for your grades and qualifications... well employers will just see you as a school leaver who plays on his computer a fair bit. it will mean next to nothing to them unless its graded by an examination board or experienced by another employer. stick at it, it will work.
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We have next to no english people working on the production floor where I work, the few that are have been there 15 odd years. I see new faces every day it seems, some speak acceptable english, but most barely know how to utter a greeting. Supervisors are now foreign also, so will tend to sway towards employing "their own", mostly done through word of mouth or mates of people already working there.

I'm forever having to stand around not having a clue about what is being said, and feeling totally foreign in my own (apparently) country.

Last year a driver managed to not apply the handbrake on his truck sufficiently, and it rolled back crushing him against some cages, he called for help but apparently none was forthcoming. This is just an example of the potential for problems.

I can't see how employers are happy to gloss over the language barrier in such a way, although it has been answered above it seems highly irrational to me.

Working with machinery, vehicles, heavy/moving objects, or any aspect of production, with people who can't understand their co-workers can only be a recipe for disaster.

Btw, in response to getting reasonably paid (working class) jobs, do you have a driving licence? It helps.
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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

I see what you (original poster) are saying, however you are in a minority, most people do not want to work.

No offence dude, but GCSE's won't get you anywhere these days. If you want to be on more money, you need to either: -

A)Go down the academic route, i.e A-levels, Degree.

B)Go through the apprentice route

Or C)Hope that something on the off chance comes along, which is very unlikely.

You might have been building PC's since you were 15, but you have nothing on paper to prove it, no recognised qualification, so why would anybody take you on?

This year more Poles are leaving than coming in, because finally wages are coming up in Poland to the rate of which they are in the UK, it was going to take a few years for the economic differences to match up and now it is, far less immigrants from the EU will be coming over.

If you ask me, it's not the Eastern EU's who are the problem, it's those from third world countries who have no morals whatsoever.
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Shay HTFC · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Karma :

My friend looks at the CVs from job applications and says that 50% of them go straight in the bin because of poor spelling and grammar. It just shows a lack of effort and is lazy.

Obviously doesn't go for all jobs e.g. the ones that are actively going for Polish / immigrant workers.
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