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MarJay
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 20 Mar 2008    Post subject: UK's first car pool lane: Allows Solo motorcyclists! Reply with quote

Finally a good piece of biking news!

This rubbish government have seen fit to start introducing 'car share' lanes as they call them.

The upside of this is that they will allow solo motorcycles in them as well! Very Happy

Its the monkeys and typewriters theory. Sooner or later they were bound to get /something/ right!! Smile

https://news.uk.msn.com/Article.aspx?cp-documentid=7853918
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 20 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem is how are they going to regulate it. There will be a lot of people with only themselves in the car going down them for sure.
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 20 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
The only problem is how are they going to regulate it. There will be a lot of people with only themselves in the car going down them for sure.


cameras work well in other parts of the world
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 20 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes cameras, more bluddy cameras, no doubt they will be able to check your speed aswell.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 20 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pffft

The solution isn't gimmicky car sharing lanes, the real solution (as in one that will actually be a long term improvement rather than just a cheap & easy attempt to win votes) is to increase the capacity of the UK's road network!

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PostPosted: 19:51 - 20 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can bet the sales of blow up dolls will go through the roof.
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 20 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonchivers wrote:
ms51ves3 wrote:
The only problem is how are they going to regulate it. There will be a lot of people with only themselves in the car going down them for sure.


cameras work well in other parts of the world


I just don't understand how a camera is going to be able to see if there is more than one person in a car.
What happens if the passenger is in the back seat?
What happens if the passenger ducks down to pick something up as they go past the camera?
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PostPosted: 06:45 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the 2nd one in the area, the other has been running for a few years now, in Leeds. Seems to work quite well and you don't see many flouting the lane.
The camera point is a good one as many parents will carry a kid in a car seat and they will not be picked up very well, if at all. To that end you often see a PC parked up and watching the lane.

Good idea, but its not going to make more people car share.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Pffft

The solution isn't gimmicky car sharing lanes, the real solution (as in one that will actually be a long term improvement rather than just a cheap & easy attempt to win votes) is to increase the capacity of the UK's road network!

Rolling Eyes


I disagree. You can keep adding lanes to your heart's content all that will do is allow more car drivers to have "one each".

Enforcing "drive on the left" is the key to reducing congestion IMHO.
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
What happens if the passenger ducks down to pick something up as they go past the camera?


How many passengers duck down to pick things up as they go past cameras? Wink Hah, pwned Laughing (Sorry...)

The system seems to work well in the States, loads of the freeways around LA have car share lanes. I do agree some people would probably abuse the system somehow though.

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The solution isn't gimmicky car sharing lanes, the real solution (as in one that will actually be a long term improvement rather than just a cheap & easy attempt to win votes) is to increase the capacity of the UK's road network!


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PostPosted: 10:20 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
Enforcing "drive on the left" is the key to reducing congestion IMHO.


Well, that too, by which time Satan will be feeling a little chilly
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Seems that they have turned the hard shoulder into a car share lane. At least (unlike the M4 bus lane) it isn't removing a lane from everyone else. Down side is the lack of any hope of getting to a safe refuge in the event of a machanical emergency.

AJI wrote:
The system seems to work well in the States, loads of the freeways around LA have car share lanes. I do agree some people would probably abuse the system somehow though.


Yeah, probably empty car share lanes most of the time.

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PostPosted: 12:28 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:00 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Yeah, probably empty car share lanes most of the time.


Not really. The freeways around LA are permanently busy even at night. We got sick of getting stuck in slower moving traffic (though at least it was actually moving, unlike jams in the UK) we decided we were eligible to use the lane, and although you can get held up by people going slower than you, that's still a lot better than being stuck in traffic. Some of the lanes even had their own dedicated exits. Though this is probably something the UK wouldn't fund...
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

They prob allow bikes in because they will be using forward facing cameras so no way to track the bike as no front number plate. Smile

Not that i am cinical or anything. Smile


Bikes dont tend to add to traffic because most filter to the front and then disappear into the distance. Even if they cant filter in standing traffic on motorways they tend to be in the middle of two lanes waiting till they can, so no extra space used.
Allowing them into the lane stops them filtering reducing the risk to the rider due to poor obs from car drivers and poor decisions from the rider.

Good decision by them, bet it is more due to the front facing cameras that regulate them than choice though Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great 1.7 miles of lane. That's what - 2 minutes tops?

Oh thank you wise and glorious Broon. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going live in Leeds very soon... Neutral

Roadside cameras that detect BLOOD will catch lone drivers who abuse car-sharing lanes

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=517849&in_page_id=1770

"The cameras work by sending an infrared beam through the windscreen of vehicles which detects the unique make-up of blood and water content in human skin.

The system's inventors believe it will catch out motorists who try to fool existing CCTV road cameras by placing mannequins in passenger seats or fixing photographs to windscreens.

It will at first be used to police car-sharing lanes in Leeds, but councils across the country have already expressed an interest in using them.
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