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PostPosted: 00:03 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Non-slip manhole covers Reply with quote

Just read this on MCN. https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2008/February-1-3/18-24/feb1908nonslipmanholecovers/
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Slippery manhole covers could be consigned to history if UK proposals are accepted by Europe, the British Motorcyclists Federation has said.

New non-slip manhole covers offer equivalent grip to a good quality road surface, according to the BMF.

The UK committee working on revising European standards has agreed to recommend the covers as a minimum requirement, the group said.

A spokesman said it could lead to “a safer European-wide road network for bikers”.
He said: “The next stage will be to address this matter at a European level to gain support and agreement from the other countries.”

Chris Hodder, the BMF’s government relations executive said: “As motorcyclists we know we need a level of skid resistance equal to that of the main carriageway, but what we needed was a technical specification and that’s what we have now been able to agree on.”

David Short, the Motorcycle Action Group’s campaigns manager, said: “It is the simple measures that can make so much difference and save lives. The European and UK Government now need to show some leadership, effect a change in the skid resistance standard and make our roads safer for vulnerable road users.”

Sheila Rainger, head of campaigns for the RAC Foundation, added: "No-one needs to be put at risk by a slippery manhole cover in the road surface.

"Safer covers are available but they are rarely used because the current European Standard does not require covers to be skid-resistant in real-world conditions.

"If the UK is successful in amending the standard, the roads will be safer for motorcyclists and for other vulnerable road users.”




Brilliant idea, as there are a couple of manholes down my road that I have no choice but to go over- going around a corner. I felt the back end slide out once before could have been off if I hadn't put my foot down in time. Although the government spending money on the roads Shocked could it really happen?
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PostPosted: 01:06 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the BMF are involved it's sure to fail.
The masters of the Fecal Touch.

By the time there is any sign of movement they will all have fallen out with one another or resigned due to miss management of funding.

Last time I asked then about a grip issue it was ignored.

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I hope the covers are implemented. I hate dodging them on corners.
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PostPosted: 01:40 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno what your complaing about they make riding more interesting Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:14 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
I dunno what your complaing about they make riding more interesting Laughing


True.

Inner city roads of Character.

We need route maps of our favourite runs.. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good to me if it happens
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PostPosted: 03:02 - 21 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

"UK proposals are accepted by Europe"
I thought we said no to tha EU Brick Wall RRRRRR!!!
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 21 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac_Kaliba wrote:
"UK proposals are accepted by Europe"
I thought we said no to tha EU Brick Wall RRRRRR!!!


pledges in the Manifesto are not subject to legitimate expectation
-Lawyer acting for Labour when the manifesto pledge for a EU referendum was challenged in court, and lost.

Ie promises they say are not a contract and are thus worthless.

Kinda like the we won't increase income tax or put in top up fees, in came a +1% increase , and £3000 a year fees.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 21 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Auld Cuntess Thatcher reduced Income Tax to win votes.

The bastirts almost tripped over one and other to elect the old fuker.

Soon as she got her feet in the door she hiked VAT up to 17.5% Shocked

But income Tax was low.
If you had earned a bundle you saved a bundle.
It only cost you if you spend.
Like for household goods in order to live......and shit.

So tax is just a sort of uncomfortable Dildo every government lubes up from time to time.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 28 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be a good idea to get non slip ones, especially one corners. So many times when i have gone round a corner i have to move the bike toward the side just to avoid them.
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been in the pipe work for a good few years. By the time it comes in we'll probably all be dead anyway.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the manhole covers i can think of, are on corners...

Then again, those are the ones i NEED to remember! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 03:29 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they put those in around sheffield I think they might be about the grippiest surface we get to play on (the roads are toss round here)

great idea and would no doubt stop a few incidents.

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PostPosted: 10:26 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Re: Non-slip manhole covers Reply with quote

Rob1barr wrote:


there are a couple of manholes down my road that I have no choice but to go over



Eh?
Huge covers?
Or
Very narrow road?
Or
Very bad rider?
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 12 Mar 2008    Post subject: Re: Non-slip manhole covers Reply with quote

GirlBoy wrote:
Rob1barr wrote:


there are a couple of manholes down my road that I have no choice but to go over



Eh?
Huge covers?
Or
Very narrow road?
Or
Very bad rider?


As it happens there's one near me like that.

In the middle of my side of the road on a left hand bend. If you go near the bank you're too close to the telegraph pole and risk hitting it, if you go around the outside you're too near to oncoming traffic. It's just the way it's worked out.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 13 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

non slip man hole cover woooohooooo
i hate the bloody things more then words can describe

ive lost count the amount of times i been enjoying a good ride for it only to be wrecked by having to dodge a bloody manhole


can only be a good thing in my mind
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 13 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
All of the manhole covers i can think of, are on corners...

Then again, those are the ones i NEED to remember! Rolling Eyes


Because it makes economic sense if not rider sense, thus you have cables and pipes under the road, one man hole serves 2+ streets, thus reducing the total number of man holes needed.

Though in the UK utility companies are crazy anyway putting pipes and wires under the road (they should put it under the pavement with concrete slabs that are in a U shape so to replace pipes and cables all they have to do is use a FLT to lift them up instead of dig up the road , and repair it in a poor manner.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 14 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Noxious89123 wrote:
All of the manhole covers i can think of, are on corners...

Then again, those are the ones i NEED to remember! Rolling Eyes


Because it makes economic sense if not rider sense, thus you have cables and pipes under the road, one man hole serves 2+ streets, thus reducing the total number of man holes needed.

Though in the UK utility companies are crazy anyway putting pipes and wires under the road (they should put it under the pavement with concrete slabs that are in a U shape so to replace pipes and cables all they have to do is use a FLT to lift them up instead of dig up the road , and repair it in a poor manner.


So why do they put them under the road and not the pavement?
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 16 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't hold your breath over the "Non Slip" manhole covers. Cast iron ones are so much cheaper and far stronger so they will still be used. Remember, MH covers have to take a lot of abuse and weight - over 40 tonnes and Non Slips won't have the capacity IMHO.

Far more important issue is - POT HOLES. It used to be that any pot hole with a depth of more than 25mm had to be filled within 24 hours. Highways have now changed this to 50mm - want to know why.

The wearing course on a typical road is 25mm. That means when the wearing course breaks away the sub base is exposed. You now have an extra couple of weeks to respond to the repair - making your department look good.

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PostPosted: 18:23 - 16 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:

So why do they put them under the road and not the pavement?


Because it's easier. Roads are wider so you only have to close one carriageway. Footpaths are more difficult. Pedestrians have to get past and that means crossing the road. This creates a safety hazard - don't won't old ladies and small kids being knocked down because the pavement was closed - think of the "Claims Direct"
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 25 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
I dunno what your complaing about they make riding more interesting Laughing

lol
Because of slippery covers my ped now has a nice big gash in the once-nice paint... Sad
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 03 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

StickyNick wrote:
chris-red wrote:
I dunno what your complaing about they make riding more interesting Laughing

lol
Because of slippery covers my ped now has a nice big gash in the once-nice paint... Sad

ditto!
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 22 May 2008    Post subject: Tarring up manholes Reply with quote

Is there no way some kind of paint or tarry stuff could be put over the existing manholes to increase the grip? It surely can't be that difficult to do if it means It'll save peoples lives.
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 23 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good idea to me. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 23 May 2008    Post subject: Re: Tarring up manholes Reply with quote

Greenchills wrote:
Is there no way some kind of paint or tarry stuff could be put over the existing manholes to increase the grip? It surely can't be that difficult to do if it means It'll save peoples lives.


A common sense solution that's relatively cheap to implement? Not a chance.

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