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puremagic72
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 24 Jun 2008    Post subject: Best 10w40 engine oil-4stroke Reply with quote

Ok folks, gonna give the gixxer an oil change & Filter since i bought it.

Done oil changes before, but whats the best, money no object, as i want the best out of it.

Castrol, Putoline, Rock oil, Mobil, Silkolene?

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PostPosted: 19:04 - 24 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i23.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/f7/48/95ac_1.JPG

I like to use this, for the CBR600
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 24 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

£4.99 for a gall supermarket special Thumbs Up

I would just go for any bike approved oil, just because you pay more for it does not mean its any better.....

If you want to pay loads, then buy from you loacl bike shop and not a motor factor such as Halfords Thumbs Up
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puremagic72
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 24 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thanks chaps, always bought Castrol for the blade before.

Just wanted other opinions on other oils.

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PostPosted: 19:34 - 24 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always used Castrol GPS. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 24 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any of the top brands I think are pretty much all as good as the other. There is definately a difference in cheaper oils as I used Motul for a while from Heine Gericke due to the free filter offer, stopped using it a while ago and went back to Silkolene and the gearchange has improved significantly.
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 24 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Any of the top brands I think are pretty much all as good as the other. There is definately a difference in cheaper oils as I used Motul for a while from Heine Gericke due to the free filter offer, stopped using it a while ago and went back to Silkolene and the gearchange has improved significantly


Thinking of going with Silkolene, might just do that, but there is different types, comp, super, pro...wtf!!

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PostPosted: 20:20 - 24 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ross cornered me in his shop once and lectured me about oil ,

I came away with several thoughts:

Cheaper oil often is recycled stuff

Cheaper oil has less additives in it the minimum required.

YMMV of course but I put Shell VSX into me NTV and it took 2300 miles for it to go black , NTVs are incredibly hard on oil and normal plutine 4T ST oil in it, which goes black at 1400 miles (silkolene goes black at 900 miles). Motul I once used went black in 300 miles.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 24 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Cheaper oil often is recycled stuff


School of thought that this is actually better. The oil does not really wear out, it is the additives that do. Oil is long chain molecules, and only the weaker of these will be damaged, and then removed when rerefined.

Itchy wrote:
Cheaper oil has less additives in it the minimum required.


The additives are what wears out, and the lower additive level is the main reason synthetics last longer.

Itchy wrote:
YMMV of course but I put Shell VSX into me NTV and it took 2300 miles for it to go black , NTVs are incredibly hard on oil and normal plutine 4T ST oil in it, which goes black at 1400 miles (silkolene goes black at 900 miles). Motul I once used went black in 300 miles.


The black stuff is combustion chamber products that have been blown past the rings. Possible the Motul just did a better job of flushing the stuff out left in corners of the engine from previous other oils.

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PostPosted: 22:29 - 24 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silkolene website will tell you what's what, the comp is semi-synth and super fully synthetic, not sure on Pro. But you just want the 10w40 semi-synth for 4strokes which I'm sure is the Comp 4, start messing with fully synth and you risk introducing clutch slip and maybe small oil leaks and i'm not sure there is any benefit to it.
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 24 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would the 0w40 Mobil 1 fully synthetic that Costco sell for about £24 inc vat for 4 litres be any good for bikes ?
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 24 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's car oil and althought it'd work you're supposed to be using 10w40 not 0w40. Plus fully synth car oil in a bike with wet clutch, might work alright, might not. Most bike oils are about £28.
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PostPosted: 06:54 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used Castrol Power1 superbike with no ill effects(yet) in the track bike.
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I have used car oils (including synthetic car oils) in bikes without the clutch slipping loads of times.

All the best

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PostPosted: 11:27 - 27 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just lookin at the different oils on the Halfords web site and was wondering between these 2 (Car & Bike Oils)

Mobil Super S 10w/40 5 Litres £23.99, Semi Synthetic Motor Oil
and
Halfords Motorcycle Engine Oil 10w/40 5 Litres £21.99, Part Synthetic

Would I be right in thinking that the Mobil Super S would be the better buy even though it doesn't mention motorcycles?
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 27 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

aletank wrote:
Would I be right in thinking that the Mobil Super S would be the better buy even though it doesn't mention motorcycles?


Both oils seem to comply to the same API and ACEA ratings. Neither mention comlpying with the motorcycle specific ratings (although plenty of bikes do not specify motorcycle specific oils). To be honest, beyond the alure of the brand names and the price difference there doesn't seem to be any detail available to choose between them.

Specs for that Halfords oil:-

https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_221725_langId_-1_categoryId_129492

Specs for that Mobil oil:-

https://www.mobil.com/UK-English/Lubes/PDS/EUXXENPVLMOSuperS.asp

ACEA oil specs:-

https://www.acea.be/images/uploads/pub/070308_ACEA_sequences_2007_LD_and_HD.pdf

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:42 - 27 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halfords oil is Esso/Comma
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 27 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mobil 1 MX4T. My bike has used this since it had about 10,000 miles on it.. & the inside of the engine looks new. Altho they have been checked, the valves haven't needed any adjustments for the past 50,000 miles.. & it doesn't use any oil between changes, in 81,000 miles I doubt it has used more than a pint in total...
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 27 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:


But you just want the 10w40 semi-synth for 4strokes which I'm sure is the Comp 4, start messing with fully synth and you risk introducing clutch slip and maybe small oil leaks and i'm not sure there is any benefit to it.



Please explain?
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