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no. i think they make about 45bhp. check with manufacturer specifications. ____________________ Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
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as stock it will produce more power then 33bhp, so unless its fitted with a restrictor then it will not be legal ____________________ they say the good die young... i say we just live faster |
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Damn -trying to stay legal with this 33bhp license is proving tricky!! |
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Not sure what you call them (sport tourer? cafe racer) - not into all the fairing so something like an unfaired bandit, CB500 etc - just trying to find on within my budget £1,500 max ( including restrictor kit) is proving tricky! - may have to do more overtime
Hell at the moment - I'm not too worried about type - I just want something faster than my city fly! |
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chris-red Have you considered a TDM?
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Honda CB's are a tad misleading, they have been using the CB lable for rather a long time, and attaching it to LOTS of VERY different bikes.
CB400, could be the old CB400, air-cooled twin, I think they did a 'T' designation, an 'N' designation, a 'Dream' and 'super-Dream'.
Then there was the CB400, air-cooled 'Four'. the CB400F or CB400 'eurosport' or CB400'Four'.....
More recently they have re-introduced the CB 'twins', while they have been making a huge number of Jap-Only market 400's with four pot motors, CBR, CBF CB1, or plain CB400.... that could easily be called CB400...
So you'll have to forgive the question, but WHICH CB400 EXACTLY are you enquiring about?
Early, CB400N air-cooled 'Twin', 'MIGHT' just squeek into thw 33bhp limit. Pretty sure that the 250 version of early 80's vintage had 22bhp 'ish' the 400 I THINK 31ish! by the book specs (twenty years on, if they make any power at all, slack cam-chain and worn cams taken into account, back whel power will almost certainly be a LOT less.... was probably a lot less than 'quoted' when new, but thats another story!)
The original and now desirable 'Classic' CB400 'Four' I think had quoted power of 36bhp, so just over the limit..... but close enough to argue the difference betwen 'quoted' and 'actual'.
More modern Jap-Market imports? Unrestricted, some of them can make anything up to 60-70bhp, but Japan had thier own 45bhp licence restriction, so plenty were restricted to that, but its still to high for UK licence... and the bludger bit was that the Jap-Laws demanded an electronic restriction, so its often hard-wired into the ignition black-box, making it difficult to eiother de-restrict or further restrict.
However, looking for a 33bhp complient bike, 'on teh cheap' you do have a few options, and you dont HAVE to go for an expensive 'Restrictor-Kit'.
LAW simply states you cant ride a bike with more power. Dosn't say how it should be restricted, nor demand certification of restriction.
THAT is normally only a requirement of the insurance companies, and different co's apply the requirements differently.
SOME will take your WORD that a bikes complient..... something like an old CB400N twin, that is boarderline, you should be able to find an Ins co that will take your word and not demand certification for.
Some may ask for a certificate, others just a Dyno chart, or even just a letter from a garage saying tehy THINK its complient.
Bikes like CBR600, ZX6R, etc you'll struggle to find a more ''relaxed' ins co, becouse they KNOW people that buy that kind of bike DONT want restrictions on them.....
Go for something like a CB400 Twin, or an old XS650 or something stupid like a Neval..... and you are likely to find a slightly more accomodating Ins co, as WELL as lower premium!
On the super-cheap, plenty of bikes out there that will fill the mandate; old MZ 250's Jawa 350's, Honda Super-Dreams 250 or 400, Suzuki GS250 or 400's etc etc etc.
Some of them are even quite 'nice' bikes, as well as cheap!
(plenty of heaps though! Always be wary the cheap bike that is cheap 'cos no-ones ever paid any maintenence on it!... dont take the low mileages as a good thing.... just means it hasn't worked or been road worthy enough to go anywhere!) ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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Moo. wrote: | The CB400N makes 43bhp
The old 70's CB400/4F makes 37bhp |
Hmmm, wouldn't have credited the old super-Dream as having more power than the 'four', but there you go......
But then quoted power usually varies significantly from 'actual' power, and 'quotes' vary just as widely too!
Honda - CB 400N 43 bhp @ 9500 rpm
Honda - CB 400N 27 bhp @ 7500 rpm (different source)
Honda - CB 400N 43 bhp @ 8500 rpm (different source, again)
Honda - CB 400T 26.8 bhp @ 8000 rpm (different source, again)
Honda CB400A ('Honda-Matic') 27bhp @ 8000rpm
Different sources, different quotes.... do put the 'Super-Dream up in the 40's on the main, though, which surprises me...... the old 'four' was far more 'spritely'!
Though I do remember folk at the time commenting that the four was 'all noise and no action' with its 'trendy' accross teh frame motor and quad pipes, where thier 'Wet-Dream' was a propper 'grown up' bike, and made more power curtecy of its tripple valves?!?!
Any how, If its a CB400N 'Super-Dream' in question, stick one on a Dyno, I'd lay money you'd not get a reading much over the licence limit, if at all, and if you DID, you could easily 'tweek' it under with a little carb and or ignition adjustment, to give a Dyno-Trace to the insurance co they would be happy with! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Posted: 23:33 - 17 Oct 2010 Post subject: Re: Honda CB 400 |
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the Jap one is bout 60-65 BHP and the american one is bout 55-60 [/quote]
O RLY?
Been as the race reps (which have bigger carbs and hotter cams) don't make 60bhp without being breathed on I think you are been a bit optimistic with your power claims (or lying). ____________________ 18:54:48 Rob Fzs: jews don't give away stuff for free
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