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paulhumphrey
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 19 Mar 2004    Post subject: bought 95 Suzuki GS500E; Now notice it stalls sometimes Reply with quote

Hello,

I bought the 1995 Suzuki GS500E with 1600 miles from a dealer as-is. Now I notice that if I decelerate quickly (at 6000rpm or so pull in clutch and close throttle and brake hard) the bike always stalls. If I decelerate more gradually, the bike usually does not stall. The idle is set near 1200rpm, the factory specification.

Does anyone know what makes a bike do that?

Apparentlly the bike had been sitting for a long time before I bought it, and the dealer had cleaned out the carberators.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

Paul
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 19 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say that I don't often brake hard with the clutch out... it would certainly lock my back wheel. I pull the clutch when I feel the engine braking is too great for the rear wheel, but I've never noticed any bike that I have owned stall like this really...

What does anyone else reckon?
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 19 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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decelerate quickly (at 6000rpm or so pull in clutch and close throttle and brake hard)

You'd decelerate quicker if you don't pull the clutch in.

By pulling the clutch in you are coasting and not using any engine braking at all. My bike is the same, if you pull the clutch in at high speeds and ram on the brake it will stall,it's probably just the way they work.

You should use engine braking rather than the brakes on the wheels, come down through the gears and then pull the clutch in at the last moment.
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paulhumphrey
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 19 Mar 2004    Post subject: good points... Reply with quote

Thanks, guys. I probably don't shift down through all the gears as much as I should. I used to own a 1989 Kawasaki EX500, I'm pretty sure I used only the brakes to stop it sometimes. I don't think it ever stalled on me. But it's good to know that there might not be anything wrong with the GS500.

Thanks again,

Paul
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 23 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

My older shaped (92) GS woes the same if you brake heavily and leave the clutch - you can only engine break so much - after that a slip of the clutch is needed to easy the pressure. I let the engine slow me and the brakes assist in normal riding but when I'm gunning it, brakes take priority.
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paulhumphrey
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 23 Mar 2004    Post subject: engine braking Reply with quote

A question: When y'all are engine braking, are you leaving the throttle closed as you downshift into each gear, or are you revving the throttle a little bit as you shift into each gear to match the speeds better? Because it's hard to do that and use the front brake at the same time.

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Paul
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Hex
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 23 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on what I'm slowing down for, but normally I will blip the throttle coming down though the gears.
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 23 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

As per Hex, depends on situation - i try to blip but usually can't be arsed so it isn't a smooth change.

This changes when I have a pillion as I try to make their ride comfortable.
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 24 Mar 2004    Post subject: Engine braking Reply with quote

Correct me if I am wrong ...if you are slowing down faster than your engine can brake then your engine is working againts your brakes (front wheel braking -back wheel driving)..........I am talking about emergency stopping not day to day stuff...?? Question
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