Busa' six pots on my 600?

Gixer Trickster · L Plate Warrior Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Karma :

Does anyone know if a pair of 'busa six pot calipers will be allright on my gsxr600 SRAD, as the front brake leaves alot to be desired.
Any help will be most welcome.

Scooby · Scrappy Doo Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Karma :

GSXR brakes are normally pretty good, I would make sure they're bled properly first and if you haven't got braided lines get them.
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Dusty · King of the Rim Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Karma :

Tbh I'm not sure that fitting 6 pot calipers will nessesarily make your brakes any better. I've ridden bikes with 6 pots that aren't that impressive and bikes with 4 pots that are amazingly good.

Does your gixxer stoppie with the brakes as they are now?

As Scooby said I would look at some braided hoses and maybe Carbon Lorraine pads before you go shelling out for new callipers.
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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Dusty is right there,

The number of pots makes less difference than the actual construction of the caliper. If the caliper is billet (IE made from one bit of metal) then it is less likely to flex under load and will give a more consistent braking performance.

R1 calipers for example are 1 piece units.

Both Busa and Gixxer 600 calipers are 2 piece, but they should still give you amazing stopping power.

Failing braided hoses and new pads, try www.pretech.co.uk or www.billet.co.uk

Plus 6 potters are supposed to have a reputation for making the disks warp, especially if one of the pots is seized.

Bear in mind that with a lot of caliper transplants you will need a new master cylinder too, whereas the aftermarket Harrison or Pretech calipers will be designed for your bike.

The only difficulty you will have with these brakes is strengthening the forks for those stoppies! Smile

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Gixer Trickster · L Plate Warrior Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Karma :

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Dusty · King of the Rim Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Karma :

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

I wasn't 100% serious about the forks, but its worth checking that their damping is OK, because if its not the improved brakes might cause problems with pogoing. Smile

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TiN · Pocket Tin Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Karma :

Also bear in mind that you may also need to upgrade the bore/entire master cylinder in order to make full use of the extra pots. In fact, there's a chance that the 6-pots will perform worse unless you do that.

But as has been said - just try braided hoses etc first.
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kev · I Hump Things Joined: 07 Oct 2002 Karma :

In a word no they wont fit, your bike has rightway up forks and the busa has USD forks and the mounting points are different.

You could make them fit by getting brackets made up but its really not worth it.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Busa's use the standard Tokico 6 pots as far as I know.

I've got a feeling that some Tokico 4 pots and 6 pots are interchangeable. However I know some Tokico 4 pots do have a different mount spacing.
I doubt it would make a major difference though.
I'm not that great a fan of the 6 pots standard either, but with braided hoses and decent pads they are quite good.

Personally, as others have said, I'd avoid all the hassle of messing about with different calipers and just change your hoses and pads.
For pads I'd go for Carbone Loraine S3 .... best pad I've used, noticablely better than the EBC HH when you're really pushing it ... only a small difference in the end, but still noticeable.

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

The GSXR600 used Tokico 4pots, like the ZX6r G model... got a feeling the mounts are likely to be pretty much the same. However that still doesn't make it worth it.