50cc bikes

[Pete]

What is the best off/on road bike, 50cc, with gears that is fairly fast and more importantly is reliable and legal for a 16 year old taking my cbt. Other things are: The price second hand, running costs, insurance figures and the availability of parts and the customer service quality etc?
I have looked at Motorhispania Furia Cross, and the Aprilia RX50. What others are there,and what are the pros and cons!?Also, is it worthy of the famous nod?
Many thanks,
Pete
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[carvell]

Yamaha DT50 is a good, cheap off-road style bike. They're old, but cheap and cheerful. When you crash it it's not going to break into a million pieces and cost a bomb to repair, it'll bounce back up and be the same as ever.

The Suzuki TS50 is the same sort of thing as the DT50.

Mike owns/owned a TS50, I'm sure he could tell you more about that bike, top speed of around 50mph when derestricted I imagine, but if you want to be legal on it at 16, it must stay restricted to 30mph.

Second hand cost, you're looking at anywhere from £300 to £700 for a mint one.

Insurance on these - cheaper than newer tartier bikes.

Availability of parts for these? Easy, everywhere stocks parts.

Worthy of the "famous nod"? Yeah - I'd say so.
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Yamaha TDM 850

[Keith]

Derbi Senda, lovely bikes...
Excellent build quality, both structurally and mechanically.
Fast bikes with lots of tuning parts to keep you occupied.
Pick them up for around £1000 and insurance isn’t too bad but it all depends on where you live (i.e. crime/claim rate)
For pics, check mine out to get an idea...also has a race pipe for extra kick
https://www.derbi-club.com/owners.php?uid=487

There are others such as the Rieju (I don’t like them at all) www.rieju.co.uk for pictures and bike specifications.

There is also the Peugeot XPS which is very nice indeed https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=Peugeot+XPS&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-tab-img-t&cop=mss&tab=3 some pictures there.
Although Peugeot and Motor Hispania are the same company, the XPS has such a better design and build than the Furia Cross, looks like a more solid bike if you know what I mean.

If you like the Senda, you can have mine for £1000 as I’m selling that as soon as I get my Honda repaired, within the next month I believe

DONT GET A TS50! my friend had one, you know they're only 3bhp? with a top speed of about 35mph derestricted? terrible bikes. STAY CLEAR!
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[carvell]

If you are going to spend £1,000 on a 50cc bike at 16, you need your head testing, in my opinion.
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Yamaha TDM 850

[Keith]

whys that? they go for around £2400 brand new.
would you rather get something 10 years old, totally unreliable or a new bike?
Besides, they have a good resale value as they are sought after
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[Flip]

Is it worth you waiting a year and getting a 125? Not much power in a 50 and their plain dangerous. Or do you need for work or something?

[Jammy-G]

[Pete]

[carvell]

[Keith]

doesn't mean they have to go slow. My derbi done 55mph derestricted and just a little over that now i've got the power pipe but it gets there so much faster. It still has the restricted air filter on though, its very easy to get a Senda to 70mph just by switching to a Giannelli exhaust. don't have to believe me but its the damn truth. You can even spend about 200 on them and you'll have something which beats a lot of 125's (DT and stuff, not sports )
Besides, it'll be your first year on insurance, getting through your first year of no claims is very important.
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[Flip]

Hey Pete,

If you need a fifty, then get one, but don't spend too much on it because you'll sell in a year!

Set yourself a budget, say £4-500 for example, but I wouldn't waste time and cash trying to make it faster, it isn't really worth it.

Learn to ride it, get used to the roads, then bin it and get a 125 when your 17.

But for Christ's sake be careful, it won't have the power to get you out of trouble!

What ever you decide, good luck dude

[Pete]

Cheers everbody. Flip, will probably keep it two years actually coz of getting a car at 17. will probably use it more for fun when I have four wheels. more fun on two wheels, but in the winter won't ride much. NS-keith. Thanx for the offer, but looking at them not too keen on them, and the price is a bit over my head unfortunatly. Looking to spend no more than £700 (if possible) coz of insurance over that.
Moving over to the idea of the aprilia RX50 now. like the looks and aprilias seem to have a good reputation. more market research still to do though.
Thanks again everbody!
Pete.
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[Keith]

RX50 is a very nice bike indeed
should be able to pick a good condition model up relatively cheap
they're more offroad orientated too so they'll hold their own on rough terrain.
Good choice bro
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[Pete]

Thanx for all the info and help, but after 6months of waiting and just over two months to go till my birthday, my @#/?£$ dad won't let me ride ! he says i'm too immature and everythings too dangerous etc, and if I get a bike he will come over and smash it with a sledge hammer!
will pay a visit to fights and flame wars in a moment.
@#$%£ fathers,as bad as techers(sometimes!)
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One fine day in the middle of the night, two dead men got up to fight. Back to back they faced each other, drew their swords and shot each other!

[Flip]

Wait till your 18, you'll be in the position to have a half decent bike, you'll be an adult and you will be more mature.

Your dad will be happier, you'll have a bike and everybody wins. Be patient dude. One day it'll happen

ps Parents can be like that. It's their job to worry.