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Posted: 14:24 - 18 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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This is just making the decision more difficult! I am not talking about making regular journeys on the motorway, just the odd journey to a meet (box hill is a hour by motorway I believe) and just other places that may need to go. It won't be that bad for it surely?
How do they cope on fast A roads doing 70-80ish? Would be alright because your braking and accelerating for corners yeah? ____________________ ***Previous: GPR50, FZ750 *** Current: Monkey bike, yella SV 650 ***
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Posted: 14:36 - 18 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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Well, if it's a fast A-Road, then you're probably not braking if you're doing 70-80 .
As I say, they seem to be ok, but it's more a case of mechanical sympathy.
My Hussy was geared for 110 with the supermoto wheels and you could sit on a motorway at 80 easily if you wanted, however they would go bang pretty quickly because they're not designed for that.
Less of an issue with these bikes, but I still don't like it.
Should be ok for occasional use; pretty sure that my CCM dying wasn't due to occasional motorway/A-road use, though I do wonder if it contributed?
Oh and there's better routes to boxhill; takes a bit less than an hour by motorway from or here or about an hour if you leave the motorway at J10 of the M4.
Remember you do get a lot of wind blast on any bike like this at speed - you do get used to it, but it bothers some more than others. |
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Posted: 15:14 - 18 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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Haha, yeah I was just trying to not alert the safety nazis so said braking.
So hussys, are they more highly strung yeah? What sort of bhp are you looking at them producing? Not sure if it will be an ideal first bike as it is going to be my only form of transport, how many miles are the service intervals?
Sorry for the endless questions! Just want to make sure I make the right choice... ____________________ ***Previous: GPR50, FZ750 *** Current: Monkey bike, yella SV 650 ***
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Posted: 19:24 - 18 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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my R30s my only bike atm have a car aswell tho, and as said will sit at 70-80 np (tops out at about 110-115 ish) but windblast can be a c**t, soon builds up the neck muscles lol. Have done some good rides on it tbh and yes the seat isnt the most comfortable etc but you soon get used to that. Been upto lakes etc onit just for the day out ride, about a 350 ish mile round trip. I have taken people on the back aswell ( took a mate 100miles on the back when he picked his bike up) often do 200 miles or so on a sunday ride. service intervals are around the 4000 - 4500 mile mark on the susuki engined 644. ____________________ Dont Click HERE
Current modes of transport = 125 superdream (in bits atm), 1978 GS750 chop, bandit 600(main one), 1982 bmw r100rs,
cx500 trike (hey its fun) oh and the car to ferry the missus and dogs around |
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How does it wheelie? ____________________ ***Previous: GPR50, FZ750 *** Current: Monkey bike, yella SV 650 ***
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Posted: 19:32 - 18 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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with the standard mods done (tps,airbox,valve lift gubbins can) it wheelies fine off the throttle with a gentle tug in 1 and 2nd needs clutching up in 3rd if your crap at em like me. You have to remember that it aint a higly tuned sm like the others but on the otherhand you havnt got 10 hour service times either (yayyyy) could always add the kent cam and the bore 710 kit if you so wished ____________________ Dont Click HERE
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Posted: 19:35 - 18 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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How many miles have you done on it? Had any trouble with it in that time? Also have you done any proper miles on the motorway? (Over a hour?)
Cheers for the help. ____________________ ***Previous: GPR50, FZ750 *** Current: Monkey bike, yella SV 650 ***
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Posted: 19:50 - 18 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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I've only done about 4000 onit in the last couple of months (only been using it for fun latley as the cars warm lol) Been to blackpool and back a few times on the motorway which is probably about 60 miles each way so about an hourish didnt have any problems. Also when I collected the bike it did about 100 back to mine down the m6 no worrys. The bike will have no problems sitting at 70 - 75 mph on the motorway all day its you that will get tired of the windblast The bike has never missed a beat in the time ive owned it. When I ride tho I tend to avoid the motorways and use the twistyest roads I can find to my destination as thats when the grins on your face goes stupid ____________________ Dont Click HERE
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Posted: 19:54 - 18 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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Sounds like the right type of bike for me, I find motorways boring anyway.
I think I will leave it to closer to the time and see what sort of monies I have, talking to G today he recommended the 404 or the 610, I think for my first bike reliability is a big part so I might go for the 644 R30 even if it is slightly heavier. I can always get a more highly strung SM when I have another bike in a year or so... ____________________ ***Previous: GPR50, FZ750 *** Current: Monkey bike, yella SV 650 ***
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Posted: 20:02 - 18 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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The 404 is 124kg dry and the r30 is 132kg dry so not really a lot init. Remeber tho the r30 wont take trail wheels as the rear swingarm is shorter. You can always change the swingarm for the ds one if you wish tho then you can use both trail and sm wheels. Best bet is to find somewhere that oyu can actually have a sit on one and see how they feel to you. ____________________ Dont Click HERE
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Posted: 20:03 - 18 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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i ride a ccm 604e supermoto with a rotax lump in it, and its never skipped a beat over 2 years or so.
not going to go into reviewing it very much, all i can say imo the suzuki lumps are gutless and horrible (ive ridden a few)
if you get anything like mine, standard cans just strangle them, get one from remus + jet, and it will run so much better.
may even be tempted to sell at some point (getting car)
steve ____________________ Current : 06 Zx10r, 07 Wr450f SM, 74 850 norton commando, 63 bsa b40, 1962 Triton 650, 67 Triumph Tr6r, 1955 Triton 750, 1978 TY250E. |
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Posted: 20:18 - 18 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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Tempted to sell it in 2 months? ____________________ ***Previous: GPR50, FZ750 *** Current: Monkey bike, yella SV 650 ***
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Posted: 20:18 - 18 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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Sorry, but both those weights are out; I believe the r30 is a decent amount heavier than claimed from some discussions long ago on a CCM forum.
Good point on the r30 swingarm; best bet if you were stuck on using it for trail use would be to get the (less tarty) 644 DS; should be able to pick one up with both sets of wheels fairly easily.
My '119kg' 404e comes in at around 135kg no-fuel. That's about the same 'real world' weight as a TE610 and about 3kgs less than my 690.
People I've talked to have suggested that the bigger CCMs are starting to push the weight limits a bit for comfortable and reasonably speed green-laning. Of course some can go greenlaning fast on a GS1200A, but must wouldn't .
I don't see the SM610 should be any less reliable than the 644 really, though my research has been on the newer ones. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 152 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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