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 FreshAL Sir Crashalot

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 Posted: 13:53 - 26 Jan 2009 Post subject: Getting fit - |
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I know there's been lots of fitness threads on here before but here's another one. Man up and deal with it.
I used to be naturally fit, but age is catching up with me.
Currently I can run for about 20 minutes. Just. I can't think of many things worse than being a skinny bloke with a pot belly, so I'm going to be following "Training Planner 2" from here
https://www.icicle-mountaineering.ltd.uk/training.shtml
https://apholt.net/upload/fitnesschart.JPG
Unless I get karma based to hell I'm going to post a weekly update on how I'm getting on.
Anyone else want to get fitter and try this?
Easier to stay motivated with a group thing. |
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I need to get fit again. Before these new leathers do not fit me....
Since I stopped doing kickboxing, my fitness has disappeared along with most of my muscle mass....
I'm looking for something I can fit around my job. I work 10am-9pm on a 4 week, 4 days on 3 days off rota. My days off, more or less alternate each week. |
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I also find running boring but have heard it's a good way of strengthening the leg bones and joints as they react to stress from vibrations and being put under load. If I wanted to lose weight and tone up a bit I would either do laps of a swimming pool or start cycling, but each to their own
When I started to gain bulk and muscle I took pictures before I started, and looking back I'm happy with what I've achieved so far, it might be worth doing something like that so you know how far you've come! ____________________ 2012 KTM EXC 250
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 Louise World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 16:55 - 26 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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I really need to get fitter & loose weight.
I need to loose (Or Id like to loose) around 2 stone.
Im not a biggy but baby tummy all n all.
Running I do have issues with - smoker and can normally last 10 mins which is 4 times around the block  |
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 Posted: 17:12 - 26 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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To be fair even when you classify yourself as 'a runner' the first 10 minutes are nearly always the most difficult, as you have to settle into a rhythm with your stride and breathing, so keep going as it gets so much better once you're settled.
I'd recommend running with a club or friend (I run with my dog no friends!) as it can be really good fun. Clubs are usually very friendly and full of all types of people and standards. ____________________ 'The core of a man's spirit comes from new experiences'
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All you need is a punch bag with 3 minute on your toes rounds.
Press-ups, sit-ups and a set of free weights.
Punch bag is sooo stress reliving
And weights, pressups/situps is man stuff  ____________________ Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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I dont want to be super fit - But I need to loose flab!!
I want to go back to my old flat toned tummy before Josh.
But seems near impossible  |
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 Visitor Q $25 whore

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 Posted: 18:57 - 26 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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I hate when people say 'get fit'... Just man up and abit you couldn't give a stuff if you're out of breath after 200 metres or 20 miles. It's just a euphemism for a beer gut.
Join the club. It sucks.
I've just taken up squash, although I'm not getting down there nearly enough. I jog over there, and get down the gym now and again.
What irks me is my 12 month cycle. Get fat, take up something and lose the weight, lose motivation as not fat anymore, get fat, take up something....
It's irritating as fuck. When I was boxing I got back down to just under 15 stone and was still a bit irked about the remaining last inch (I can never get rid of that), then clubs changed and it stopped being fun. Had exams and summer, ended up chunky again (within literally 5-6 months) so started going to the gym manically (at least 3 times a week) for about 5 months, got to exams and summer and relaxed... put on two stone.
So now I'm back at 16.5-17stone, looking husky, and getting irritated thinking about all that time I spent getting 'thin' ( aka less chunky) thats counted for jack shit. All I have is alot more muscle then before the gym mania, but that just makes me look even fatter
Come on, hands up anyone else who puts on muscle piece of piss, but is just constantly porky unless they train their arse off  ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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I will follow the plan on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. I'm in shape, round is a shape.  ____________________ Famous last words of Humpty Dumpty. " Stop pushing me "
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All of these run for 1 min and recover for 1.5 mins are great but I'd need a stop watch to keep track.
HIIT training does prove to be the best form of cardio apparently for fat loss as it puts your body in a state of confusion.
Before you start running sort out a decent diet and the results will be evident sooner. Personally I prefer swimming as you get out and have a shower and you are fine.
Bleep tests are also a good form of training and you only need 2 cones, 20 metres of space and an MP3 player. |
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 Posted: 21:49 - 27 Jan 2009 Post subject: Re: Getting fit - |
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Can't do running and not a fan of it outside an' stuff anyway.
Have been making an effort at the GYM though (By the way Al', Canons has a much better average level of totty, I'd say ... as well as being a bit shinier, despite being only very exepnsive, rather than rediculously expensive.)
I find group exercise stuff like spinning etc works for me as I do actually last out the time.
Starting off looking for what to eat before and after exercise, I ended up reading Tom Vemuto's 'Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle'. Think it may be an 'net-only ebook, not sure, but it is spammed all over the internet.
However, it does seem to have lots of good points based on sciency stuff. A lot of it is stuff I already know, but laid out in a good sequence to think about.
On the weight thing:
I'm trying the eat six meals a day thing (something I was aware of)... according to my calorie counter program I'm still generally eating too little.
Of course in the past I've always done the worst thing for weight; not eating much in the day, so I'm tired and my body starts going into a 'starvation' mode, then eating loads later on, which makes the body much more likely to store it as fat. |
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 Posted: 22:06 - 27 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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As much as running is boring as fook, it gets rid of fat the quickest. I lost 3 stone over a 6 month period due to running and keeping my diet at a maximum of 1500 calories a day.
I've now managed to sustain my weight on a good diet, with treats in between.
I have got a gym membership, but wouldn't recommend it for losing weight, you never push yourself enough. Gyms are only good for weight training and I go to the gym 3 times a week, it's a 1.5 mile run there as well which helps. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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| Jon B wrote: | I have got a gym membership, but wouldn't recommend it for losing weight, you never push yourself enough. |
Depends on the person - for me it works a lot more than self-motivated out door stuff.
Enduro motorcycling maybe I will keep going and trying to do more when really knackered, but even cycling, which I enjoy, I won't generally, unless I'm riding with people and feeling competitive.
One of the things stressed in the book below is that more muscle=more calories burnt. Muscles burn calories doing 'nowt, so if you've got more muscle you can eat more/lose weight faster with the same food.
Also mentioned that the type of exercise doesn't really matter (I'd suspect rowing, say, would be better than running if done for the same time period)... but the amount and how often. As often as possible and for forty five minute sessions seems to be the best.
To some degree I'd be more motivated to do weights myself at home, especially if I wasn't trying to combine it with a decent amount of cardio. |
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 Posted: 22:14 - 27 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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Obviously it is down to the individual, I have weights and a pull up bar at home, but never use it. I need to be at the gym to do my weights properly.
When I was fat I went to the gym and lost a stone initially, but that was it, got to my comfort zone and struggled to push mysef further.
I found with running that developing a competive streak helped and starting running races encouraged me to push myself to go faster and further. I play football on sundays as well.
Doing muscle training is good, apparantly it raises your metabolism for 24 hours afterwards, compared to cardio which only lasts for 20 minutes after training, however it is not really that effective for rapid weight loss.b ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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 Posted: 22:36 - 27 Jan 2009 Post subject: |
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I think you need a good mix of weight training and cardio. Seemed to be working when I was doing both regularly.
Walk to gym, 10 minutes of fast running on a treadmill, an hour on weights et al.
The thing is, I get so bloody bored. Today I did 2 hours of squash (jog to the place, 90 minutes playing a mate, 30 minutes on my own) and knobbed about doing some weights. Left more because I was bored then tired.
Unfortunately the whole 'muscle burns fat for you' theory is a little optimistic. Whilst I may have a rather annoying spare tyre, I've got slabs of muscle. It never seems to stop the fat gain. So don't think that all you need is to work those biceps a bit and whoosh, no problems ever again.
I'm also getting quite despondent about this cycle. This is at least the 3rd time I got fat after a massive drive to get 'slim' ( yeh right), and this time I'm not firing myself in to it quite as manically. Just seems a bit pointless. If I wasn't arsed about getting laid I seriously wouldn't bother.
Hence my point, this whole getting 'fit' thing is a myth. We just feel ugly when we're fat. ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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| bonny_ricardo wrote: | I hate when people say 'get fit'... Just man up and abit you couldn't give a stuff if you're out of breath after 200 metres or 20 miles. It's just a euphemism for a beer gut.
Join the club. It sucks.
I've just taken up squash, although I'm not getting down there nearly enough. I jog over there, and get down the gym now and again.
What irks me is my 12 month cycle. Get fat, take up something and lose the weight, lose motivation as not fat anymore, get fat, take up something....
It's irritating as fuck. When I was boxing I got back down to just under 15 stone and was still a bit irked about the remaining last inch (I can never get rid of that), then clubs changed and it stopped being fun. Had exams and summer, ended up chunky again (within literally 5-6 months) so started going to the gym manically (at least 3 times a week) for about 5 months, got to exams and summer and relaxed... put on two stone.
So now I'm back at 16.5-17stone, looking husky, and getting irritated thinking about all that time I spent getting 'thin' (  aka less chunky) thats counted for jack shit. All I have is alot more muscle then before the gym mania, but that just makes me look even fatter
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I'm in the same boat as you, I'm currently at 15 1/2 Stone, with a 36 inch waist. I can eat like a beast and the wheight comes straight on, takes me forever to get rid of it. I am useless at running - always have been, even when young and healthy, now if I try it is a waste of time, I'm out of breath and energy before it's even been worth it.
Don't know if anyone saw the program on TV last night, forget what it was, they made really skinny people eat about 4000 calories a day for 4 weeks. Some put on quite a bit of fat, some changed weight, but not shape etc.
But at one point they said one of the problems with the 'obese' population, is our bodies see our 'obese' weight as it's 'proper' weight.....so no matter what you do, your body want's to be at that 'obese' stage.
How depressing
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| AngelGrinder wrote: |
How depressing
What gym do you go to Richard? |
Isn't it bloody just.
These damn body fascists in the media
To be honest I think most of our problem is living in this damn cold climate with the proles. Put me somewhere hot for a few weeks with local food and I drop weight without giving it a second thought.
Here... Bah.
Oh and I'm over at Active4less behind Lister Hospital. It's only £13 a month (plus a £17 quid joining fee). It's not quite the same luxury as I was used to in Bangor JJB for £20 a month (student rate, off peak - ie get in there before 4pm on week days, the horror!), but its got 3 squash courts and a sauna. No jacuzzi, pool or lockers that work, but meh.
Oh and it's got a 'punchbag' corridor, full of all kinds of natty punchbags/speedballs. And a full size ring upstairs
Why, fancy coming to the Gym with me? I need a more reliable squash partner. I go there with James (from biology) and hes got a dodgy back and cock all stamina. ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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