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PostPosted: 13:25 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Benelli Tornado's Reply with quote

What are they like to ride? Pro's? Con's? Reliability? etc
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reliabilty = non existant Laughing
However, i couldn't blame you if you wanted to buy one just to stick in your living room Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Urm, everytime i see one, its in the workshop busted up lol, well, its italian, and you know what they're like for reliabilty, if you got one, i'd use it as a toy and hope that nothing goes wrong with it, not saying there all dodgey, but i've seen 1 with a collapsed shock(TRE X?), 1 ate its own engine in less than 400 miles (tre), When they get PDI'ed they have alot of parts swapped over an takes quite a long time to do, i heard of someone going round a corner an the ECU decided it wanted a rest an the guy riding it binned it due to lack of exit speed (tornado) lol. Good bikes though, there is a dedicated forum for benelli's someplace if you google am sure you could find it easy. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Urm, everytime i see one, its in the workshop busted up lol, well, its italian, and you know what they're like for reliabilty, if you got one, i'd use it as a toy and hope that nothing goes wrong with it, not saying there all dodgey, but i've seen 1 with a collapsed shock, 1 ate its own engine in less than 400 miles, When they get PDI'ed they have alot of parts swapped over an takes quite a long time to do, i heard of someone going round a corner an the ECU decided it wanted a rest an the guy riding it binned it due to lack of exit speed lol. Good bikes though, there is a dedicated forum for benelli's someplace if you google am sure you could find it easy. Thumbs Up


After that litany of disasters you can still say they are good bikes XlonewolfX Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:

After that litany of disasters you can still say they are good bikes XlonewolfX Shocked Laughing

Gotta admit, i love the cafe (TNT) one they make, its only a handful of them that go wrong in all fairness, though alot of them barely get used i spose, as regards to the OP i think you should head over to the benelli forum for an indepth insight to the bikes your regarding, they will give you first hand accounts etc rather than me who hasnt owned one/ridden one.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read bike magazine from this month. They have a review on them in there. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does one bin a bike by exiting a corner too slowly? Neutral
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigs23 wrote:
How does one bin a bike by exiting a corner too slowly? Neutral

excessive lean angle and no power to pick it back up on a tight corner?
Just go to the benelli forum an ask about the tornado's, they will tell you everything you need to know from specs to need to know information etc. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigs23 wrote:
How does one bin a bike by exiting a corner too slowly? Neutral


I can assure you that if you are cranked over, open the throttle and the engine dies, you fall over Laughing

Happened to me riding a 1500 wing. The bank sensor (designed to cut off the engine if the bike fell over) failed, engine cut out and I fell off. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Psychohippy has one. He really likes it, but I suspect that he is at least slightly miffed that you can get one brand new for £6k now.

But he has had it since I first met him which would be somewhere around 2004...
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Psychohippy has one. He really likes it, but I suspect that he is at least slightly miffed that you can get one brand new for £6k now.

But he has had it since I first met him which would be somewhere around 2004...


ive seen pre registred 04 bikes brand new in showroom for £5995 lol

thats the 900 tornado Novecento Tre tho.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Psychohippy has one. He really likes it, but I suspect that he is at least slightly miffed that you can get one brand new for £6k now.

But he has had it since I first met him which would be somewhere around 2004...


That's pretty damn cheap, I had double that + some in mind Confused
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's with all the Benelli slander!? The Tornado is the most reliable of the Benelli range. The only major problem I've had with all the Tornado 900's that we (the shop where I work) sold is the temperature sender failing. I really can't accept that they are unreliable even compared to Jap bikes. Why is it that when something is Italian people pluck stories from the back of their mind and slag them off? Not all Italian machines fall apart.

To answer the OP's post honestly I will say that they are a bit tall, heavy and slightly underpowered for a 900, although they are quite torquey so that kind of makes up for it. They sound awesome too, get them up to 8k rpm and they sing. They also look really nice. Smile
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

there been a benelli tornado on ebay for bloody ages, looked alright but has never managed to be sold, been wondering why it hasnt sold yet.
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PostPosted: 07:22 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZaphodBeeble wrote:
Why is it that when something is Italian people pluck stories from the back of their mind and slag them off? Not all Italian machines fall apart.


I've had a ducati, beautiful, but fell apart.

I've got an Alfa Romeo, I love it, but I use the wifes corsa more cause I don't trust it. Laughing

Most Italian things fall apart.
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PostPosted: 07:42 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can assure you that if you are cranked over, open the throttle and the engine dies, you fall over


Hmmm. I was trying to work that out. I'm sure I've been in a couple of instances where I've had to brake mid corner, due to irratic behaivour of a vehicle ahead, which obviously called for the throttle to be closed/clutch in. It seemed to sit up rather than tuck in - or maybe that was me subconsciously standing the bike up to brake faster....

Do you mean a sudden, unexpected shut down that could disrupt the bike's stance? I could understand something as big as a 'Wing being tricky to haul back up - but a lighter sportsbike, trying to get my head around that one. Was it already out of ground clearence and just ground out?

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They also look really nice.


I think they're fussy and over designed, and quite a bit ugly. It's an interesting design, but I wouldn't call it pretty. There's not an angle to the bike that I've found nice to look at, it all seems rather jumbled together. It looks a bit Hyosung, although the Chinese probably tried to mate a Tornado with an SV650.
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it's because you expect the engine to pick the bike up and by the time you realise it's not going to happen, (milliseconds) it's too late. I haven't put that very well I know.

When you braked you already knew what the bike was going to do so you were proactive, when you open the throttle and it dies, you are being reactive and too late to do anything.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i aint critisicing the bike out of spite....its coz its italian!

Benellis dont fall apart.....its just every Electrical gremlin comes out at the same time. only time they do is when rider is a cock and sends it into a hedge.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Visordown thread

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IM Experience and those of a lot of others

Nowt wrong with the clocks - its the starter system, it hasn't got enough Ooomph to turn the engine if its at the top of the stroke when starting...hence drains the battery because it pulls too much power through the 8mm main leads from the starter motor and resets clocks
Many owner have tried to design a UPS unit to preserve power to the clocks, but its bulky and a DIY effort!
I had mine constantly on an Optimate...trouble is if you forget to charge it before you go out , you're in Russian Roulette terratory as to whether it'll start when you get to your destination.
Also to remove the battery as its lying on its side under the rear fairing is a total rear end dismantlation. The rear fairing fits snuggly against the subframe and is in one piece. This means that you have to pull the plastic over the slim bits over the wide bits of the frame.
You end up with creaking plastic that you have to man-handle to remove...not something you wanna do if you've had so many bits 'fail' within a short space of ownership

You cant use the marks on the Rad filler bottle to judge the level of rad fluid either....its not accurate. You have to fill it through the cap, tip the bike on its side, put upright again, top up and repeat this until the fluid level is just visble below the spout for the rad........how shite is that!!! I think its something to do with the design tat means they get an airlock and gives a false fluid level reading!!!

Paint peels on all colours - Mine had 3 new panels within the first 3 months, mine was a red RS, know people like the guy on the Bennetts ad who has a black and silver one who has had panels replaced.

Sprag wheel in clutch was a prob on earlier models now apparently resolved

Switchgear - Shite mine was replaced under warranty as worked intermitantly

Core plugs - These fail because of the seal failing or corrosion to the covers as it gets covered in shite flicked up from the front wheel

Heard horror stories about pistons and rings destroying the engine and Benelli only offering to pay for th rings.....pretty pointless in a fucked engine!

Screen paint flakes

Radiator extraction fans failing and bike overheating

Also my bike came with a couple of screw already stripped including one in the fork pinch bolt!!!!

They are a shite bike which performs no where near the sports bike that its meant to be.

Mine had Marzocchi WSB forks, Brembos Series ORo radial calipers, Marchesini Wheels, Extremetech Shock with High and Lo speed damping, carbon galore

This bike is nothing on my previous RSV Factory or my current R1

Its quoted at 140 Bhp but feels more like 100 and has a wierd kinda handling feel.

The only thing that God has got right is it sounds awesome and looks great.....but then so does Angelina Jolie...but she s too high maintainance

much like the highly strung Tornado

At the time it was a toss up between a new Gixer 7 or the Benelli....I went with the Benelli coz I'd lusted after one for years.....now wish I'd gone for the Gixer!

If you want more info for your own reaseach go to www.benelliforum.com

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PostPosted: 12:50 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, I think they just underestimate the weather. On mine a portion of the loom under the front cylinder was in a nice protective shroud that also doubled as a rain water butt, needless to say that section of the loom rotted away, I was hugely lucky that a mate took it on and sorted it himself, otherwise it'd have been a trailer to GTs jobby and I'd have probably got charged a fortune.

One little bit of electrical tape to seal the top of that shroud from the factor and it wouldn't have even been a problem Mad
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had my Tornado for about 5 years now and it's never put a foot wrong. Reliability has been faultless (ok, 1 blown fuse) and the ride quality is totally unmatched. I'm hopeing to get myself a Café Racer as a stable mate for it, but I need to find the money for it.

I went out to Italy for a Benelli weekend a few years ago and one chap rode his Tornado from London to Misano, spent 2 days with it on the track and rode it back again without any problems what so ever. Yes there have been some problems for some people, but no more than many other bikes I can think of.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What annoys me the most is that you don't hear the horror stories about the Jap bikes as much as the Italian stuff. I've had 2 GSXR thou's come through my workshop with rusty fuel tanks. Both of them K7's. Makes the bike lurch horribly because the bottom of the tank is full of rust. Also, the main ignition fuse is in such a position that it gets corroded and no longer carries sufficient current to allow the bike to rev properly under full throttle load.

The point is that all bikes have their gremlins no matter where they are made. Another example would be the infamous Honda regulator/rectifier problem. Surely that warrants horror status?
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZaphodBeeble wrote:
Surely that warrants horror status?


Probably, but is the waiting list for parts 9 months? Er, nope.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
Probably, but is the waiting list for parts 9 months? Er, nope.

To be fair, it's not bad for Benelli. Most parts can be got within a week. Ducati and Aprillia aren't too bad either, however don't get me started on Cagiva!
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

XlonewolfX wrote:
well, its italian...


Is it f*ck. Benelli. That's Welsh mate.[
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