ktm sx50 kickstart Problem...

ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

when i kick the bike it goes to turn over then slips some times it will catch and some times it wont any one have any ideas what it could be ?? Thumbs Up

Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

You're going to need to get te side cover off and have a look - could just be something minor - if you're lucky.
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B10Hazard · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Karma :

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Take the casing off labeled as 9 i think, undoing all the bolts labeld as 6, and check it out,
All the gears and stuff that will be exposed check them out for damage and things then re post Thumbs Up

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ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

iv'e just had the side casing off it didnt look like anything was damaged not that i knew what i was really lookin for when iv'e went back and put the casing on theres nothing there at all now when i try and kick it so its something really daft i think... any ideas what ive done there is it coz theres no oil in it now that it wont kick at all

B10Hazard · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Karma :

There should'nt be oil in there.
Take it off again and make sure the kick start is actually locking onto a gear and actually spinning round
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ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

yer ive checked when ive got hold of casing i put the vice clamp on it and spun it it did turn the little gear thing cog but then it moved outa place but i suppose thats right as when i looked inside where the casing come off theres grooves that match up to the thing that moves im not good with names of parts lol newb at fixing bikes..

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tutton · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Karma :

Have you got good compression?
only asking as a mate on his old 125 crosser, used to do the same on the kickstart it would nearly kick over and go down really easy then next kick itd kick into life, compression was wayy down on it.
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B10Hazard · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Karma :

Going on tuttons post about you compression, is the spark plug loose in any way.
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ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

how would i check see if its got good compression also the spark plug wire i think its called a ignition coil i broke the sparkplug cap off it its not one of them that just screws back on its got a little spring inside and i cant get it to go back on how would i fix this could i strip down the ignition coil down to wire on the end and push it into the sparkplug cap and seal it with some type of weather proof tape??

ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

also does anyone know where the carb screws shud be set right i also wudnt mind cleaning carb if some ones got a diagram for me sorry for all the questions im a complete newbie so pics would be good Very Happy

B10Hazard · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Karma :

If your a novice i wouldnt go stripping your carb for no aparent reason, get the kick start sorted first.

To set them is quite simple. Your bike ticking over is also called ideling, to get you idel right find the screw with a spring around it. The more you tighten that the more your revs will be on "idel", you want the idel to be sat nice so your bike will hapilly run without you applying throttle, and when you have reved your bike it should go back to this position without your bike cutting out.
Somewhere else on your carb there will be another screw to ajust your mixture but i am not saying where because i have no idea about your carb and i could be telling you to ajust all kinds of stuff.
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ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

thanks biohazzard i just bought it as a project off a mate so its just to learn o n really how things work Very Happy

thanks for the reply do you know how i could fix the wire to the sparkplug cap as the wires broke from it Crying or Very sad

ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

or am i best just buyin a new spark plug cap what just screws on the honda shop sell them down here ..

ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

any one got any pics to show me how to fix my kick it goes to turn over but once its past the first part of the kick it just goes down with like a crunching noise but no sound of it turning over

Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

As ar as the cap goes, you will probably need to cut off the tip where the cap goes on. one thing tho - make sure that once it's cut, it's still long enough to reach the spark plug. The cap will just screw into the end of the cable then. If your cap looks old, it might be worth fitting a new one.

With the kicker - can you take a pic of what's behind the cover - give us an idea of what we're up against. It sounds like the shaft may have broken behind the inside cover.
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ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

vincent thanks for reply will try that with the old cap first then if not i will buy a new cap and i will take the casing off soon and get pics.. Thumbs Up

ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

vincent about the sparkplug cap it looks new but the screw that screws into the coil wire has snapped so its a new cap isnt it? i cant get the screw back in the cap by pushing it so i assume its fu*ck*d

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sumpgard · Nova Slayer Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Karma :

the kick start gear needs to be alined in a certain way you need to remove the spring pull the gear out push it back in so when you turn it the gear moves out you will have to play a bit. when in the right position it will come out and go back in when the kick start comes back replace spring and the plastic sleave this has a notch in that lines up with the spring hope this helps

ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

right first things first the first two pics are what is behind the kickstarter cover... and the second two are of the acctual casing what the kick is attached to...

The Artist · Super Spammer Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Karma :

On the first and seconds pictures, the part that the kickstart engages to looks very worn. I can't tell from those pictures properly but make sure the teeth are not rounded off.

ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

right the kickstart gear cog isnt rounded but i think the part tht it spinz on the engine might me not sure what oil do they take inside tht part of the engine ive been told that MOTOREX ATF SUPER has been recomended by KTM but im not sure as some one says above it shouldnt have oil in there but its got a allenkey oil refill point on the casing it says at the side of it 150cc not asin the engine size but assin how much oil or what ever goes in ther

ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

ive just relised why it could be slipping is it cause i drained the automatic clutch ,gear oil and havnt put none back in could no oil cause the kick to start and slip or would that just cause the auto clutch to slip?

ash-2009 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

ive just clicked on its liquid cooled 2 so should i put 2t in the radiator or water??