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Why are they wasting time and energy collecting information on protestors? What good can come from it?
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Posted: 21:53 - 07 Mar 2009  Post subject: |
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Protests have always been photographed. It is so if and when they turn nasty they can identify the people that throw bricks at innocent police officers, kick peoples motorbikes over and ram poles through shop windows.
It's a good thing.
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Just wear a mask or a batman suit and they can't do fuck all. You will be anonymous. However if you do fight a police man in a batman suit, don't wear it again. If you win the fight, then you're a pretty cool dude. Batman should be bad, and he should beat up police officers.
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Nope , that wasn't me I don't think , anyway the death penalty never went away anyhow it just got changed into anti terrorism special powers.
The methods are different but the end result is the same.
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| mad_man wrote: | was it itchy that once bought up the fact the eu will bring the death penalty back and got slated for his disnfo? |
Ooh look - a bandwagon. You just know someone's going to shove an iron bar through the spokes, don't you?
Let's just embolden some relevant parts...
| EU Charter wrote: | Art 2. Right to Life
Justice
Definition
1. Everyone has the right to life.
2. No one shall be condemned to the death penalty, or executed.
Legal Explanations
1. Paragraph 1 of this Article is based on the first sentence of Article 2(1) of the ECHR, which reads as follows:
1. 'Everyone’s right to life shall be protected by law …'
2. The second sentence of the provision, which referred to the death penalty, was superseded by the entry into force of Article 1 of Protocol No 6 to the ECHR, which reads as follows:
‘The death penalty shall be abolished. No-one shall be condemned to such penalty or executed’.
Article 2(2) of the Charter is based on that provision.
3. The provisions of Article 2 of the Charter correspond to those of the above Articles of the ECHR and its Protocol. They have the same meaning and the same scope, in accordance with Article 53(3) of the Charter. Therefore, the ‘negative’ definitions appearing in the ECHR must be regarded as also forming part of the Charter:
a) Article 2(2) of the ECHR:
‘Deprivation of life shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of this Article when it results from the use of force which is no more than absolutely necessary:
* in defence of any person from lawful violence;
* in order to effect a lawful arrest or to prevent the escape of a person lawfully detained;
* in action lawfully taken for the purpose of quelling a riot or insurrection.’
b) Article 2 of the Protocol No 6 to the ECHR:
‘A State may make provision in its law for the death penalty in respect of acts committed in time of war or of imminent threat of war; such a penalty shall be applied only in the instances laid down in the law and in accordance with its provisions…’. |
So yes, there are provisions for rules of engagement which could, for instance, result in Joe Schmoe getting himself slotted by TPTB whilst lobbing molotovs or tearing up paving slabs to fling at anti-riot squads. Boo, and, quite frankly, hoo.
If only Joe and his mates had been picked up by the cops before they incited the riot... If only they'd had some sort of database to cross-reference him and his known associates, poor Joe - the Peoples' Revolutionary - would be with us today...
Not exactly the "eu will bring the death penalty back" headline grabber you people like to wail about, is it?
And you panicistas have the brass neck to waffle about disinformation - I'm surprised you haven't brought up good old Professor Schachtschneider's name to give your hysteria a touch of the old academic gravitas.
Still, I guess you're too wrapped up in your cosy little world of armchair anarchy to realise that you're being led around by the nose in your jolly little incestuous world of self-referencing websites and blogs.
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Aside from the CCTV images/footage, also consider that not all by-standers with cameras are journalists.
(see now that's a conspiracy theory for ya)
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Jesus Christ, here we have a Sun reading sensationalist wanker.
You couldn't have made DEATH PENALTY and RIOTING, CIVIL UPHEAVAL sound more serious than that?!?!?!?!onenoene
What a mockery of "journalism".
I also wouldn't trust everything a professor says. I speak to "Professors" and "Doctorates" on a daily basis and not everything they say is exactly sensible or legit.
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| Jon B wrote: | RIOTING, CIVIL UPHEAVAL[/b] sound more serious than that?!?!?!?!onenoene |
No but rioting and civil unrest is coming soon, I think this is the real reason behind all the civil contingency laws and anti terrorism laws to be honest in that anybody who had any basic economics theory or a simple accountancy formula could have worked it out.
Last year I predicted money printing, money printing happened last week, the issue isn't the 150bn (which devalued your £ by 7p~10p in the pound) , but the fact that they may not have the restraint to stop, Merv King on TV recently said he didn't know when it would work but it would work , which means there is a HIGH chance of overshoot.
As in my other post the road to Harare situation took 5-7 years to get into the hyperinflation scenario.
The changes are purposefully slow like boiling a frog, in that Shaggy made an excellent post about it a few months ago that he found that things increasing in price and taxes increasing ment that he made cut backs and more cutbacks on luxury items.
Prices go up via imported inflation wages fall , taxes up means more cutbacks , until you get to the situation where you can cut no more and can't afford to eat.
The government's solution is more debt and devaluing debt is what got us into this problem in the first place.
This is of course my own opinion.
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| bazza wrote: | Still, I guess you're too wrapped up in your cosy little world of armchair anarchy to realise that you're being led around by the nose in your jolly little incestuous world of self-referencing websites and blogs. |
Nope alot of my predictions are made from basic economic theory, it is basic economic supply/demand theory that dictates demand for currency for example.
Zimbabwe has absolutely no demand for its money hence you can walk around with trillions in your pocket and buy nothing.
There is still demand for the £ , although this is falling the BoE itself stated that in Q3 and Q4 last year over 1 trillion was taken overseas as a form of capital flight , the normal amount removed is around 200bn. Bond auctions usually absorb the supply of £s but these aren't doing so well.
So you increase the supply of by printing £ , demand reduces or stays the same = devaluation.
Devalue/print too much and demand vanishes and we go the Harare route.
As said the issue is this do you believe that the UK government has the restraint to stop printing money.
Remember printing money is almost a perfect tax, in that if there is £100 in the economy and you have £50 in your pocket. If the government prints out £20 , there is now £120 in the economy, the nominal amount is still £50 ie your £50 note still says £50 on it.
But the effective purchasing power without a corresponding increasing in productivity , ie the amount of money chasing goods your £50 is suddenly only worth in purchasing power terms £41.60 and you need £60 to have the same purchasing power as the £50 before.
The recent printing of money just took 7~10% out of your pocket and most people didn't notice.
If you could constantly walk into a bank and help yourself to as much money as you wanted without anybody noticing would you stop? this is no different.
Inflation is the same John Maynard Keynes wrote about this decades ago that it is an horrible insidious tax that most people do not see.
The consequences of are just side predictions, ie people on this very forum are at the complain about price increases everywhere , if demand for £ collaspes prices will increase markedly* at which price controls get introduced which causes shortages.
Let them eat cake?.
Alot of people say the government won't let this happen , which leads to the question of WHY ?.
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I am sorry Bazza its just that we haven't made verbal love in current affairs for so long i had to give you something to jump on your bandwagon about 
the DEATH PENALTY oooo oooo oooo oooo
| Quote: | No but rioting and civil unrest is coming soon, I think this is the real reason behind all the civil contingency laws and anti terrorism laws to be honest in that anybody who had any basic economics theory or a simple accountancy formula could have worked it out. |
Yep-as AJ and a few others have been saying since 1999-there going to create a police state around you before they fully pull the plug on the economy.
| Quote: | So yes, there are provisions for rules of engagement which could, for instance, result in Joe Schmoe getting himself slotted by TPTB whilst lobbing molotovs or tearing up paving slabs to fling at anti-riot squads. Boo, and, quite frankly, hoo. |
And lets hear why Mr Schachtschneider is concerned about that:
| Quote: | This clause will totally destroy any future chance for people to stand up against abuse maltreatment or exploitation by those in authority. |
Perhaps i should of referred you to this:
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Hidden death penalty clause for rioters and protesters act exposed in Munich.
On wed 20th Feb a caucus meeting was held in the German Parliament to discuss the Lisbon Treaty.
At this meeting the following extremely important previously unmentioned clause was bought to light by Professor Schachtschneider, University of Nuremberg
Professor Schachtschneider
“The Lisbon Treaty reintroduces the death penalty in Europe, which I think is very important, in light of the fact that, especially Italy was trying to abandon the death penalty through the United Nations, forever. And this is not in the treaty, but in a footnote, because with the European Union reform treaty, we accept also the European Union Charter, which says that there is no death penalty, and then it has a footnote, which says, “except in the case of war, riots, upheaval”—then the death penalty is possible”
Professor Schachtschneider also points to the fact that this is an outrage, because they put it in a footnote of a footnote, and you would have to read it, like a super-expert to find out”
This full transcript can be found on larouchepub.com under Demand a referendum by Helga Zepp-LaRouche
It is imperative that this information pertaining to this death penalty paragraph and when it can and will be used is made public very quickly. Very few people are aware of this clause; those who are aware of it are doing their very best to keep it quiet. This clause will totally destroy any future chance for people to stand up against abuse maltreatment or exploitation by those in authority.
Even Gordon Brown could not bluff his way through this clause as the reintroduction of the death penalty is obviously a major change in all members constitutions.
As usual the mainstream media are blocking this information. |
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