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owdamer
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Smoke damaged kitchen anyone? Reply with quote
There was a big fire here in Oldham yesterday. An old cotton mill housing the kitchens company owned by the infamous Vance Miller.
If you've not heard of him then his websites are an interesting read.

https://www.vance-miller.co.uk/

https://www.vance-miller.com/

Anyway, back to the fire. A diesel generator apparently exploded, then caused several gas canistors to blow and the result was a very big fire. I can still see the smoke from my house now and i'm about 3 miles away. A few pics have been posted on the net, and a video.

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3659/3464420023_3874cbf73c.jpg?v=0

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3602/3463139621_28b4b557f1.jpg?v=0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzpZD-m02yE

Full story HERE
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Insurance job? Thinking
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thinking Not sure about the Police having more time on their hands....quote from the news report...

Word on the street from a exellent source is Vance Miller will come up smelling roses and is going to sell the land for a housing development on the site. Hope the Chronicle follows this story up. Watch this space!

....just a very good thing no-one was actually hurt or killed Shocked
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
I like your photos, they are awesome Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
kwaker6r wrote:
Insurance job? Thinking


Exactly what my mum said.

I had an amazing view of it from my house, saw one of the gas cylinders explode and shoot a fire ball into the air, then later on saw parts of the roof collapse twice.

So much better than watching the telly.

Here's a picture my sister took when it was just smoking.

https://i44.tinypic.com/140gdg9.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
kwaker6r wrote:
Insurance job? Thinking

Dont know about that. He says he's not insured.

Tonka wrote:
Thinking Not sure about the Police having more time on their hands....quote from the news report...

Word on the street from a exellent source is Vance Miller will come up smelling roses and is going to sell the land for a housing development on the site. Hope the Chronicle follows this story up. Watch this space!

....just a very good thing no-one was actually hurt or killed Shocked


There's a story on Millers website about him being told by a contractor that Oldham council had been given £58million to redevelop the area and where the mill stood was earmarked for offices. The plan was to cpo all the building belonging to small firms around there, but the cost of shifting Miller would be too much so a smear campaign would be used against him to close him down.

ds55 wrote:
I like your photos, they are awesome Thumbs Up


Not my pics. I only heard about the fire at about 10pm last night. I looked out of the back bedroom window and saw a huge plume of smoke illuminated by the flames.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here's a little video I filmed. I think it was around 19:30.

Clicky

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PostPosted: 19:22 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tonka wrote:
Thinking Not sure about the Police having more time on their hands....quote from the news report...

Word on the street from a exellent source is Vance Miller will come up smelling roses and is going to sell the land for a housing development on the site. Hope the Chronicle follows this story up. Watch this space!

....just a very good thing no-one was actually hurt or killed Shocked


Old news that the Council were given £58million by central Government to develop the area and prepared plans for the Mill without consulting the owner Mr Miller. The council would be happy for the mill to burn down as then they can then put a CPO on it for much less outlay than they could with an operating business in it.

So it burns down he gets an insurance payout and the building and land taken from him for virtually nothing via a CPO that's hard to fight with nowhere big enough in the area to re-locate to and no need for his overseas business's. Would not be a bright move.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pah, call that a fire?
Try this one for size:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00998/depot-fire-460_998645c.jpg
https://www.sanctus1.co.uk/blog/uploaded_images/buncefield-737418.jpg
https://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41118000/gif/_41118758_buncefield_aerial2_416.gif

Awaits an Aussie BCFer to post pics of the recent bushfires in similar 'oneupmanship' style......
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
mistergixer wrote:
Pah, call that a fire?


Its big for a little town like Oldham.
Funny thing is we seem to be a bit prone to Mill fires.
And oddly enough there always seems to be some development or other waiting in the wings.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
Tonka wrote:
Thinking Not sure about the Police having more time on their hands....quote from the news report...

Word on the street from a exellent source is Vance Miller will come up smelling roses and is going to sell the land for a housing development on the site. Hope the Chronicle follows this story up. Watch this space!

....just a very good thing no-one was actually hurt or killed Shocked


Old news that the Council were given £58million by central Government to develop the area and prepared plans for the Mill without consulting the owner Mr Miller. The council would be happy for the mill to burn down as then they can then put a CPO on it for much less outlay than they could with an operating business in it.

So it burns down he gets an insurance payout and the building and land taken from him for virtually nothing via a CPO that's hard to fight with nowhere big enough in the area to re-locate to and no need for his overseas business's. Would not be a bright move.


I wasn't suggesting that he had done it, just that it seemed too convenient to be accidental and that the Police would have some serious investigations on their hands to find out who was responsible.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Re: Smoke damaged kitchen anyone? Reply with quote
Owdamer wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzpZD-m02yE



You on Sarah Furbey's facebook too???

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PostPosted: 19:50 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Re: Smoke damaged kitchen anyone? Reply with quote
powelly wrote:
Owdamer wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzpZD-m02yE



You on Sarah Furbey's facebook too???

Laughing


Who? Never heard of her. The link for that video was posted on the local papers website.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Re: Smoke damaged kitchen anyone? Reply with quote
Owdamer wrote:

Who? Never heard of her. The link for that video was posted on the local papers website.


She's heavily involved with Oldham Carnival, Hollinwood Festival etc etc, She posted the video today so wondered if that's where you had seen it, being both Oldhamers I wondered it was a possibility.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Re: Smoke damaged kitchen anyone? Reply with quote
powelly wrote:
Owdamer wrote:

Who? Never heard of her. The link for that video was posted on the local papers website.


She's heavily involved with Oldham Carnival, Hollinwood Festival etc etc, She posted the video today so wondered if that's where you had seen it, being both Oldhamers I wondered it was a possibility.


I think the last time i had anything to do with Oldham Carnival was about 1982. As I said, i just clicked the link on the local paper's website.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've just looked out the window and it seems to be on fire again. Confused
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Saves them going into bankruptcy, a fire does, nice big insurance claim ...


cynical, moi?
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 23 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Owdamer wrote:
mistergixer wrote:
Pah, call that a fire?


Its big for a little town like Oldham.
Funny thing is we seem to be a bit prone to Mill fires.
And oddly enough there always seems to be some development or other waiting in the wings.


The explosion and resulting fire was rather big for a small town like Hemel too!
I've done quite a bit of work in some of the various mills around Oldham (Raven etc), TBH my estimation of Oldham is that it would be improved if it were to be entirely destroyed by fire and then concreted over.
(BTW, the same goes for Hemel too!)
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 30 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
mistergixer wrote:

I've done quite a bit of work in some of the various mills around Oldham (Raven etc), TBH my estimation of Oldham is that it would be improved if it were to be entirely destroyed by fire and then concreted over.


Sounds fair enough to me. Hopefully the towns inhabitants (minus me of course) would have to perish in said fire. Very Happy
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