Counter steering

[c_dug]

Just a quicky, should it be more of a push on the inside bar or a pull on the outside? Or is it a case of whatever feels better?

c_dug
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[Kwaks]

usually a push for me, but a bit of both won't go amiss
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[Acemastr]

there is no right way, try doing it with only one hand, you'll see just how much force you use to do it, then with both hands and how simple it is, it's a natural movement, as long as the bike leans you're doing it right1
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[MarJay]

I usually do both if I'm trying to turn quickly.
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[damz]

it just happens when you need it to, i have never thought about it i just do it.
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[JAMSXR]

When cornering, if I use one hand it will always feel more secure when using my pushing hand.
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[s44678]

While we're on it: When trying to straighten back up quickly after a corner, I feel like I really need to yank the bars straight to get the bike to stand up. Is this normal?

Always a bit scared of using the power to straighten the bike up in case the back steps out.

[Smooth]

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[Acemastr]

[TheFoxyDuke]

I find a push to be easier to execute and a bit more natural (at least it's on the same side as the direction you want to turn) and I think the brain finds it easier to interpret.

On the other hand (pardon the pun) a pull on the outside bar seems to be more effective and produce a smoother turn.

So I guess a bit of both would do the trick

BTW I still can't explain the whols dynamics behind it properly

FoxyD

[The Tot]

I think people should bookmark this:

Andy Ibbot shows how to "pick-up" on track... can be applied to the roads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cbQoW3rk2o&feature=PlayList&p=49ED07A6AEF2DD6E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4
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[pyx_e]

A little body lean makes the arms do it naturally. Leaning inot a right-hander makes the right arm shorter (push) and left arm extend (pull).
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[c_dug]

Its not really the natural counter steer im worried about, as the name suggests that kind of happens naturaly, im more on about if im running wide in a corner and need to tighten up the turn kind of thing.

I find myself using mr right hand regardless of the direction of the corner.

c_dug
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[robbieguy2003]

Depends how you're riding really..

I've found when its slippy weather then hanging off a bit keeps the bike more upright and gives you a little more grip.

I'll tend to lean off before the corner, say its a right hand turn ill hang off right, push the left bar to counter steer the other way which keeps the bike in a straight line (me leaning pulls right/me counter steering left pulls left and it equals out).

Then when I hit where I want to turn in a counter steer the other right which tips the bike in.

The above seems to work for me and gives me more confidence in corners even though at times i prob do look like a monkey!

I've normally only pushed the inside bar rather than also pulled the outside, especially on left handers as that lets your right hand just do the throttle.
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