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temeluchus
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Ukranian wonder rat Reply with quote
Heres my Ukranian wonder rat:

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PostPosted: 19:02 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
That is fucking awesome mate. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
i agree, looks like it has concealed guns on it
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shes a Dnepr MT11 and has a BMW r80/7 motor fitted. The original motor is a similar boxer type motor.

The Dnepr is a contemporary of the Ural. It is made in the Ukraine, near Kiev and is named for a major river in the area.

Urals and Dneprs are similar but not the same, Dneprs if anything have some better design features but have lost out as all the money has gone to the technically inferior Urals.

They are good bikes, but suffer from poor manufacturing standards, rather than poor design, so with a bit of love and care can be made to run very well. Mines had the beemer motor fitted prior to me owning her, but its a similar lump and is easy to maintain with the bonus of a little more poke.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks like you could ride to Moscow for breakfast.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was about to ask if it was a Ural copy Laughing
Very nice, I like the look of these old military style side car units, they look very purposeful and have something quite romantic about them I think...
Any mountains or dense woodland near? I know I would Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just a quick question and its absolutely fecking stupid but.........how do you go over speed bumps. I would shit a brick. Question Question
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PostPosted: 01:12 - 16 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Carl_steveo wrote:
Just a quick question and its absolutely fecking stupid but.........how do you go over speed bumps. I would shit a brick. Question Question


It's a Dnepr. On soviet bike, speed bumps go over you.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 16 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
That alternator looks just like the one on my car!

I like it.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 16 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lol best reg plate EVER! GAG! hahaha
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 16 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tis an awesome bike sir.

Saw one for sale on ebay with a citroen 2cv engine in it.
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
class mate absolute class Thumbs Up Karma Karma Thumbs Up
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nice alternater too Very Happy no problems with the lectrics on that machine.... Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 19 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Its a 450 watt lucas alternator from some leyland car.......

Has a pulley on the end of a crank and short fanbelt-i was also considering a double pulley and stuffing a supercharger on the other side of the motor Wink

Very very good off road, far better than my mates landrover round the local lanes-he couldnt keep up. Only falls foul of deep soft mud, but can easily be pushed out of harms way where any 4x4 would just be too heavy and need winching.
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PostPosted: 07:39 - 20 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
XlonewolfX wrote:
Lol best reg plate EVER! GAG! hahaha


Wotcha.

Ah, the good old "GAG" registration.
Me and another club member, Ron, bought a Dneper each back in 1992. The bike was actually registered on my birthday, which was cool. The reg numbers were - J 736 GAG (mine) and J 737 GAG (Rons)
In fact, they looked like THIS
Mine ended up with a BMW R80 engine, then it got triked. A good friend of mine then bought it in 2001, did the NABD National rally on it, then, a few weeks later, some dozy bint on a mobile phone turned right in front of him . . . it killed both him and the trike. Thumbs Down Evil or Very Mad
Thus ended J 736 GAG
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PostPosted: 07:43 - 20 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Temeluchus wrote:
...and stuffing a supercharger on the other side of the motor...


DO IT. NOW.
I'd love to see that - an utterly awesome frankenbike that rips the tits off many modern power ranger machines... Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lone-Wolf wrote:

Wotcha.

Mine ended up with a BMW R80 engine,



What clutch plate did you use?
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
my old man has a couple of urals. One of which he's made his own clutch for. Also has a GS5 front end, proper carbs etc.

Do you have reverse gear on this one? How are the brakes?

F2 sell a higher ratio final drive too.

Clever in as much that the spare wheel will fit any of the 3 wheels on the combo. Also know of an outift around here with a reliant engine in.



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PostPosted: 22:32 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Temeluchus wrote:
Lone-Wolf wrote:

Wotcha.

Mine ended up with a BMW R80 engine,



What clutch plate did you use?


Wotcha.

I used an early BMW plate - with "castleations" rather than splines. I got a local gear cutting firm ( Village Gears ) to broach me a couple of centres, then fitted the plate to 'em. To be honest, the clutch was always the weak point - fretting would occur on the splines. In the end, I fitted the BMW gearbox, which meant losing the reverse gear, and, sadly losing the swing arm 'cos the output shaft was dead in line with the swing arm spindle. . . . hence the trike was born.
<< digs out very old web page>>
G.R.I.M There we are - a most enjoyable machine which sadly met a nasty end.
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lone-Wolf wrote:


Wotcha.

I used an early BMW plate - with "castleations" rather than splines. I got a local gear cutting firm ( Village Gears ) to broach me a couple of centres, then fitted the plate to 'em. To be honest, the clutch was always the weak point - fretting would occur on the splines. In the end, I fitted the BMW gearbox, which meant losing the reverse gear, and, sadly losing the swing arm 'cos the output shaft was dead in line with the swing arm spindle. . . .


Other technical hitch is that the BMW box spins the shaft the other way so if it did fit youd have 1 forwards and 4 reverse gears.....

Ive used the Dnepr plate-the problem is that as you know the Dnepr runs a two plate clutch so using one plate means that the centre is 1/4" deep instead od 1/2 and that buggers the splines on the input shaft of the gearbox as I foind when I rebuilt the gearbox the last week.

Ive found a Skoda estelle clutch plate that looks likely as is the right shape, and has the required 1/2". Also is a tenner instead of the 40 quid for a beemer one....
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
garth wrote:
my old man has a couple of urals. One of which he's made his own clutch for. Also has a GS5 front end, proper carbs etc.

Do you have reverse gear on this one? How are the brakes?

F2 sell a higher ratio final drive too.


Daves a great guy, but knows how to charge Wink I buy me bits from a guy in the Ukraine, far far cheaper.

Almost all Dneprs have reverse, mine included. Ural didnt get a reverse till '99. If you saw a Ural with reverse before 1999, it was fitted with a dnepr gearbox Wink

The clutch problems on mine are due to the mating of a BMW engine to the Dnepr gearbox, you need to jiggle clutch parts around to make it fit properly. As i said above there are afew problems, hopefully the skoda clutch plate will sort it. BMWs, Dneprs and Urals use clutches similar to small car clutches.
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Temeluchus wrote:


Other technical hitch is that the BMW box spins the shaft the other way so if it did fit youd have 1 forwards and 4 reverse gears.....


Wotcha.

Err - no you wouldn't.
If that was the case, you would have five reverse gears. The BMW box ain't got a reverse.
Temeluchus wrote:


Ive used the Dnepr plate-the problem is that as you know the Dnepr runs a two plate clutch so using one plate means that the centre is 1/4" deep instead od 1/2 and that buggers the splines on the input shaft of the gearbox as I foind when I rebuilt the gearbox the last week.

Ive found a Skoda estelle clutch plate that looks likely as is the right shape, and has the required 1/2". Also is a tenner instead of the 40 quid for a beemer one....


Now that sounds like a plan Mr. Green

Best of bloody luck.
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 23 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
doh of course 5 backwards gears....
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Temeluchus wrote:
Shes a Dnepr MT11 and has a BMW r80/7 motor fitted. The original motor is a similar boxer type motor.



Here is have solid modeled engine of the MT11 Dnepr to every bit excluding electric starter.
Do you recognize one? Very Happy
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