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Mark65
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Bonneville Se Reply with quote
Is it just me or does any one else think this is a gorgous bike Smile

https://dealernewsblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/modern-classics-bonneville-se-studio-01.jpg

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PostPosted: 11:18 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes I do, its got something 60's retro and yet something RD350LC about it... I like! Smile
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not knocking the bike in any way.

But having a long memory It does make me laugh out loud every time I see a bike like this.

I remember back in the early 90s Bloor in an interview saying he would never bring out a 'Bonneville' or try to copy the old T120/T140 models.. or indeed produce any bike that 'looked' like a Meriden bike.. and look what he's doing.

I wonder how long it will be before we see a 'Hurricane' copy. now THAT would be worth seeing.

something like this - one-off Hurricane styled Triumph featuring a heavily modified 1975 Bonneville frame, housing a 1995 885cc Sprint engine, with Honda VFR front end and single sided rear end.

https://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w40/motobiker/triumph_hurricane.jpg
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
However this servicing charge is taking the piss i think.

https://www.woodsmotorcycles.com/pdf/triumph%20service%202008-2009.pdf

£221 to change oil /air filter/oil filter and plugs Shocked £165 in labour

I will do it myself thnx, but when i pass my test i will be looking at this bike very closely Very Happy

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PostPosted: 11:35 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Personally I think them doing away with the spoked wheels has made it jump forward a decade in style terms which I don't really like. If I were in the market for that brand new 'modern classic' type bike I would probably buy the

Moto Guzzi V7 Classic
https://www.motorcycledaily.com/063008middle.jpg

Although the new EFI Unit Construction Royal Enfields look pretty tasty too

https://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2009models/2009-RoyalEnfield-Bullet500Classicc.jpg

However at something around 30bhp from a 500 single they are still somewhat of an acquired taste, plus I'm still a bit sceptical about how well put together (and researched) the bike is. Mine has some ropey build quality, but given that it's the same design as the '50s one there are plenty of much higher quality aftermarket parts to bring it up to scratch...
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
i think they are still selling the wire wheel model but is £300 quid more .

i prefer the V7 Sport replica the cafe classic:
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/222260/images/01moto-guzzi-v7-cafe.jpg
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
The guzzis are very nice bikes, something to consider.
Speed is not as important as a comfy reliable bike to enjoy riding on.

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PostPosted: 11:56 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
the guzzi's will be even more attractive when they fit the big bore from the griso. Drooling
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
DaveJPS wrote:
i think they are still selling the wire wheel model but is £300 quid more .


Ah right, so this is the entry level jobbie then?

DaveJPS wrote:
i prefer the V7 Sport replica the cafe classic:


Yeah that is quite nice. I've always (well since they came out anyway) wanted one of the Ducati Sport Classic ones in yellow, but apparently riding one is like stretching yourself on a rack...there's nowhere where I can try one out either since they aren't in production anymore (so even the Ducati showrooms round me don't have tester bikes). Maybe one day I'll just buy one and see how I get on...Even if I couldn't face riding it, I wouldn't mind just having it in my living room!

https://www.webbikeworld.com/ducati-motorcycles/sport-1000/sport-classic-sport-1000.jpg
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
the sport classics riding position can be improved by removing the two 1" spacers under the top yoke and raising the clip-ons (read it somewhere)
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
DaveJPS wrote:
the sport classics riding position can be improved by removing the two 1" spacers under the top yoke and raising the clip-ons (read it somewhere)


Yeah, I think you can add the bar raisers from one of the sport touring bikes or something (I did look into it at one point) but it does somewhat spoil the line of the bike - call me a tart if you will. Besides, I can't imagine it would make it that much better on your back. One of the other problems is cramped legs too. And apparently the front fork is over-sprung as standard too, so ultimately it's a flawed machine! Prob why it appeals to me so much though...
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:
Yes I do, its got something 60's retro and yet something RD350LC about it... I like! Smile


70's not 60's. The wheels give it away. Wink
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
MarJay wrote:
Yes I do, its got something 60's retro and yet something RD350LC about it... I like! Smile


70's not 60's. The wheels give it away. Wink


No Sickpup, you didn't read what I said. The frame and engine etc looks like a Bonneville from the sixties, and yet the wheels make it look a bit RD350LC ish.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
^^^
I read your initial post, you don't make any mention of frame, engine or wheels, you just wrote what Sickpup quoted.

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PostPosted: 18:40 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
mistergixer wrote:
^^^
I read your initial post, you don't make any mention of frame, engine or wheels, you just wrote what Sickpup quoted.

Thinking


Well, the engine is something sixties, and the wheels are something RD350LC... how hard is that to work out? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:
mistergixer wrote:
^^^
I read your initial post, you don't make any mention of frame, engine or wheels, you just wrote what Sickpup quoted.

Thinking


Well, the engine is something sixties, and the wheels are something RD350LC... how hard is that to work out? Rolling Eyes


Well from your initially vague comment, it is fairly hard to work out - hence why 2 people so far have questioned it.
As the majority of RD350LCs had curved 3-spoke or 5-spoke (in pairs or 10-spoke if you wanted to be pedantic) wheels, and the bike in the pic has straight 7-spoked wheels, i'd say the wheels look nothing like an RD. I'd say the wheels were far more reminiscent of (for example)a Kawasaki ZL900 or a KZ750 - because both of those had straight 7-spoked wheels.
You can count to seven, can't you?

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PostPosted: 20:12 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
mistergixer wrote:
Well from your initially vague comment, it is fairly hard to work out - hence why 2 people so far have questioned it.
As the majority of RD350LCs had curved 3-spoke or 5-spoke (in pairs or 10-spoke if you wanted to be pedantic) wheels, and the bike in the pic has straight 7-spoked wheels, i'd say the wheels look nothing like an RD. I'd say the wheels were far more reminiscent of (for example)a Kawasaki ZL900 or a KZ750 - because both of those had straight 7-spoked wheels.
You can count to seven, can't you?


Of course they aren't exactly the same but they are black with silver detailing. The bike that comes most easily to mind with that kind of styling is a 350LC. Maybe because I own one.

I still fail to understand why a simple comment has been pounced upon in such a way. I was trying to describe in the briefest of terms why I like the Bonneville SE. I could say I like it because it looks like a Banana on top of an apple, and it would still be valid. If I were describing the bike in detail because there was no picture available of course I'd use more accurate terms. Aesthetic appreciation is an emotional thing and as such is pretty hard to describe.

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PostPosted: 20:23 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
I wouldn't say 'pounced upon', merely called into question because of its vagueness.
The 'retro' part of your initial comment is a bit of a no-brainer, as it is a retro style bike, and therefore has more than a whiff of 60's retro about it.
However
I've seen a K6 gixer with black wheels and silver detailing - does that bike look anything like a K6 gixer to you? Of course, they're not exactly the same, but by your logic it's still a completely valid comment.

Oh, and before i forget: Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 20:33 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
mistergixer wrote:

I've seen a K6 gixer with black wheels and silver detailing - does that bike look anything like a K6 gixer to you? Of course, they're not exactly the same, but by your logic it's still a completely valid comment.


Now you're being deliberately obtuse. You know exactly what I mean. The LC is a bike of the early eighties, and this bike is supposed to be a retro styled after the late seventies. They are both of the same era. The Bonneville was an outgoing model in the late seventies, and the LC was an incoming model. Hence the styling overlap I guess.

I just like it.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, I do. And one day I am sure I will own something like it.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gorgeous! Thats one to keep an eye out as a potential future bike.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:

Now you're being deliberately obtuse. You know exactly what I mean.
I just like it.


Yes i am, and no i don't - hence why i questioned it in the first place!
I like it too but i still think it bears absolutely zero resemblance to an RD, other than the fact that it has 2 wheels and an engine.

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